AngelAriz Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 I have a practice of punching/striking about 2000-2500 +300 kicksStrikes per repetition days and striking less on skill set days, ie: dummy forms or two man drills etc.Do any of you split a skills day apart from a striking day?I find the having the knowledge of a set of skills fails compared to executing a handful of techniques for many strict repetitions.Plus the added conditioning helps my hands get used to the impact force and the neuro pathways also must get programed to work in a crisis with all of those reps.Consider the idea of shooting a cowboy gun. As a kid i used to watch Clint Eastwood and copy his quick draw so much that instinctively when i see a revolver i do the motions as if i were Clint blasting fools from the hip. I dont have the skill but my body just does it automatically without thought.So now a Chung Choi or a 123 combo is second nature. Even under attack or retreat im still putting out blasts.Now i need to cut the wasted movement and ill be golden....lol No limits as my limit.
Wastelander Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 When you talk about doing separate days for "skills" and for "striking," I assume you are talking about partner drills and solo basics? If so, I don't separate them at all--I typically practice my solo basics before and after class, and I try to include solo practice of techniques from my partner drills. That way, I get the best of both worlds. It is definitely good to have your muscle memory "programmed" to automatically do what you need to do, and impact training is vital. Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf KarlssonShorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian RiveraIllinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society
AngelAriz Posted May 21, 2013 Author Posted May 21, 2013 Well solo basics...not really. More like pushing to do a certain strike many many many times with very strict form trying to hit faster or with better mechanics. I talked with some people in the JKD community and all of the teachers i respect have some form of conditioning that includes training a strike thousands of times in an hour. Stamina and faster reaction times result. No limits as my limit.
FunPhatom Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 keep that up and you'll be awesome - that's quite a regiment!
Wastelander Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Well solo basics...not really. More like pushing to do a certain strike many many many times with very strict form trying to hit faster or with better mechanics. I talked with some people in the JKD community and all of the teachers i respect have some form of conditioning that includes training a strike thousands of times in an hour. Stamina and faster reaction times result.Ah, so just a massive number of repetitions of a technique, then! When I started training, we would do that in class, but over time it got phased out of class-time in favor of partner drills and kata, and I started doing that on my own time. Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf KarlssonShorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian RiveraIllinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society
AngelAriz Posted May 23, 2013 Author Posted May 23, 2013 I train with my students most of the time.I generally only teach privates and small groups.Since i dont have a big group we all get to work on mechanics or speed, rhythm, timing..etc.JKD tends to draw only a few people at a time.The work load is more than most people want to endure. No limits as my limit.
bushido_man96 Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 I'd rather work a skill than that many reps. Rep training is good, but if you don't put equal amounts to skill into it, then it won't translate other than being able to throw an immense amount of techniques.Conditioning is a good thing, and so is developing muscle memory, but I think developing the skills is a little bit more important. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
AngelAriz Posted May 24, 2013 Author Posted May 24, 2013 Each to his own i suppose. No limits as my limit.
AngelAriz Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 I see a lot of young people wanting to do what i can do however arent willing to put in the time and repetition.But i have opened my yard to people to give them a good training day and most quit right in the middle of training. I used to try to motivate people but now i just do my thing, if you do it too cool, if not cool.Sijo Lee was a numbers fanatic, Guro Dan is, Sifu Tim Tackett does 1000 punches in a pool (in his 70 s no less)And The crazy skilled Tommy Carruthers is a numbers guy. Therefore, im in good company. No limits as my limit.
sensei8 Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 I'd rather work a skill than that many reps. Rep training is good, but if you don't put equal amounts to skill into it, then it won't translate other than being able to throw an immense amount of techniques.Conditioning is a good thing, and so is developing muscle memory, but I think developing the skills is a little bit more important.I hear what you're saying Brian.I do think that if one's properly conditioning and creating that muscle memory, ones skill set would not be risked, imho, because proper execution is paramount to any MAist, and the key word, imho, is PROPER!! **Proof is on the floor!!!
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