Carrying Animosity!!

[Kusotare]

Even some of the oldest Ryu-ha in the world have websites.

[ShoriKid]

Sensei8, if I were you, and I'm obviously not!, but you asked, I'd make it simple and clear. Tell them to amend the by-laws to fit your decision. Then, who ever takes over after you're gone (years from now hopefully) can decide to accept or deny a promotion to 9th dan when the time comes.

[cheesefrysamurai]

From what I understand of these organizations, thats probably not an option. Butting heads with someone who has absolute authority doesnt work. His reasoning is sound to me, but as far as they are concerned they have as much right to promote him as his dai soke and they will not concede to his reluctance. There is way to much ego in martial arts.

I would step back, let someone younger then you take the reigns, then "reappear" - technically he will outrank you, and you will never have this issue again.

Sensei8, if I were you, and I'm obviously not!, but you asked, I'd make it simple and clear. Tell them to amend the by-laws to fit your decision. Then, who ever takes over after you're gone (years from now hopefully) can decide to accept or deny a promotion to 9th dan when the time comes.

[danbong]

I suggest building a consensus to modify the by-laws so the Kaicho can be either hachidan or kudan.

[FunPhatom]

Don't be so upset! lol

[sensei8]

Sensei8, if I were you, and I'm obviously not!, but you asked, I'd make it simple and clear. Tell them to amend the by-laws to fit your decision. Then, who ever takes over after you're gone (years from now hopefully) can decide to accept or deny a promotion to 9th dan when the time comes.

I thought I made myself clear to them, but, they're mostly insistent. Your suggestion to amend the By-Laws is a great suggestion, one that I'll absolutely do. I'm due back to the Hombu the week before our annual testing cycle in June/July, and I'll bring it to their attention.

Thanks for the advice!!

[sensei8]

From what I understand of these organizations, thats probably not an option. Butting heads with someone who has absolute authority doesnt work. His reasoning is sound to me, but as far as they are concerned they have as much right to promote him as his dai soke and they will not concede to his reluctance. There is way to much ego in martial arts.

I would step back, let someone younger then you take the reigns, then "reappear" - technically he will outrank you, and you will never have this issue again.

Sensei8, if I were you, and I'm obviously not!, but you asked, I'd make it simple and clear. Tell them to amend the by-laws to fit your decision. Then, who ever takes over after you're gone (years from now hopefully) can decide to accept or deny a promotion to 9th dan when the time comes.

Great points and advice.

I'm not trying to butt heads with them, after all, I'm their boss; I'm Kaicho [President] of the Hombu/SKKA. They're just so insistent in their tactics and it seems like each year they find a new way to convince me. Again, if Dai-Soke was fine with it, then so should they, imho.

You're not the first one to advice me in stepping down, and then return. I've even told them that I'll step down if there's a problem, but, they want me as Kaicho, and I was voted in.

I've no ego to bruise because rank means nothing to me, and I've demonstrated that to the Hombu and the like for quite a long, long, long, long time. Give me a Kudan test that would've made Dai-Soke proud, and if I pass, then I'll accept Kudan but if I don't pass, then leave me alone. No, I won't fail on purpose, that's not in me.

I don't know. I can't seem to win for losing or lose for winning.

[sensei8]

I suggest building a consensus to modify the by-laws so the Kaicho can be either hachidan or kudan.

Great advice and I thank you for it.

I'm working on just that right now with our Legal team as well as with the Administrative Team, the Executive Team, and the Technical Team.

I've my fingers CROSSED!!

[sensei8]

Don't be so upset! lol

LOL!!

I'm not!!

[sensei8]

Whenever I say that our student body is 10,000, plus/minus 5-10%, I'm referring not to my own personal dojo, no. I'm referring to the ENTIRE student body of EVERY Shindokan student throughout every single dojo that's affiliated with our Hombu, including the Hombu. Not just mine, but the totality of students across the entire network.

My own dojo's student body is roughly 375, plus/minus 25%. If I had 10,000 students all to myself, WOW, I'd be rich. I've worked my butt off to get the 375 I have, but, boy oh boy, it took a lot of time to build.