The death of "traditional martial arts".

[bushido_man96]

but it’s not very budo like to critique others who are not traditional and try to tell them what their art is or isn’t.

Who has done that then?

K.

I think he is referring to the comments of those that practice "a little of this, and a little of that." However, there is nothing wrong in doing that; there is something wrong in marketing it improperly.

[JusticeZero]

There is nothing wrong with saving a few dollars scavenging. Having someone, while they are treating you to a steak dinner at a restaurant, explain that that is the only way to get the wire because tradition, on the other hand..

[Kusotare]

There is nothing wrong with saving a few dollars scavenging. Having someone, while they are treating you to a steak dinner at a restaurant, explain that that is the only way to get the wire because tradition, on the other hand..

Again, I'm not sure what you are alluding to here, but I don't get to eat that many steak dinners - let alone treat others to them.

I'm more of a meat and two veg fella - just doing my best to keep it real.

K.

[JusticeZero]

Scavenging wire is pragmatically great for a poor precariat minority in Brasil. For an American with rivers of money in comparison, not so much. But seuroamericans love 'Tradition' so much and are so un-critical about it, indeed, considering the raw exoticness of the tradition to be a plus. As a result you see a lot of fairly silly stuff whenever the word 'Tradition' comes up. If a reason is given, it tends to be a slightly silly one.

It's a bit like Marvin Harris and the sacred cows in India. People were so enamored of the whole religion-tradition story and feeling superior that they had never actually looked at how important the cows were to the economy alive.

I posted in CMA on this today, actually.

[Kusotare]

If a reason is given, it tends to be a slightly silly one.

I'd hope you hadn't seen that in this thread?

K.

[Kusotare]

But seuroamericans love 'Tradition' so much and are so un-critical about it, indeed, considering the raw exoticness of the tradition to be a plus. As a result you see a lot of fairly silly stuff whenever the word 'Tradition' comes up. If a reason is given, it tends to be a slightly silly one.

And perhaps that sillyness around "thinking" you practice self defence...?

K.

[cheesefrysamurai]

WOW thats a great saying - and I beleive it to be true

As my instructor once said -There is no secret to understanding martial arts – there is only training.

K.

[Kusotare]

WOW thats a great saying - and I beleive it to be true

As my instructor once said -There is no secret to understanding martial arts – there is only training.

K.

Well, it wasn't actually me (or JusticeZero) that is famed for saying that - it came originaly from Otsuka sensei.

K.

[JusticeZero]

Silly.. overly floral and romantic/philosophical, but ignoring the practical. Like the difference between the storybook belt color story ('they never wash the belt and it changes colors like seasons signifying growth etc..') and the pragmatic ('I didn't want to throw a newbie who couldn't breakfall, so I had people wear colored belts to pick out senior students.')

One is 'things you do', the other is 'things you tell rich tourists you do'.

[Patrick]

I think everyone has done a generally nice job of discussing this topic in a productive manner. Thanks all. Let's keep that going.

Patrick