Himokiri Karate Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I am kind of curios, I mostly practice boxing and chinese martial arts but I have been wondering this question.Say a karate student becomes a black belt and for some reason he/she feels that being a black belt means that now they can relax and let there work ethic go...Would the head instructor/sensei revoke/suspend there black belt???I ask because I know some personal trainers would only accept clients who would be 100 committed to there training. There rational is that undisciplined students takes there credibility away as trainers.So I thought perhaps a karate instructor wouldent want his black belts be the type that may become know it all because they achieved a certian rank and now feels like they no longer need to train hard....Feel free to share any exprience of that nature It begins with the knowledge that the severity of a strikes impact is amplified by a smaller surface area.
JusticeZero Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Some might, I think most don't. I doubt that they will be able to test for their next rank successfully if they aren't working for it, though. "Black belt" is only an intermediate rank. "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." - Baleia
Ryukyu_lover Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 I think if a blackbelt starts to slack off, that means they have never really wanted to do Karate. Either they will quit soon after this habit starts, or most instructors will have a chat to them.Agreed with JusticeZero though; they just wouldn't be able to grade.
yamesu Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 My current dojo does not demote.Hoever - if a BB is slacking off, the Shihan will let them know about it. "We did not inherit this earth from our parents. We are borrowing it from our children."
bassaiguy Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 I've seen several occasions where a BB who has left training for awhile will put on a white belt when he comes back until the instructor gives him permission to where black again. In fact, I think it would be disrespectful of a student not to do this. I hate seeing BBs who never practice, but still try to lord their rank over others.I also have seen a kyu grade demoted from brown belt back to green belt, but since it was at a non-commercial dojo the implications had no financial effect on the instructor. In professional dojo I think that would be a tough decision. "Honour, not honours." ~ Sir Richard Francis Burtonhttp://oronokarate.weebly.com
Lupin1 Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 I think if a blackbelt starts to slack off, that means they have never really wanted to do Karate. Either they will quit soon after this habit starts, or most instructors will have a chat to them.I don't know about that. People's interests wax and wane. Life gets complicated but then clears up. I think if they stuck with it long enough to get black belt, it's pretty likely they wanted to do it at some point. But people grow and change and their interests change. Doesn't mean they never wanted to do it.
Kusotare Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 You can't take a qualification away from someone who genuinely earned it.In academia, if someone earns a degree in physics but ends up in a career that has nothing to do with it, that doesn't mean it negates their qualification!K. Usque ad mortem bibendum!
ps1 Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 I've never been in any school that does this. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius."
Chunmonchek Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 You can't take a qualification away from someone who genuinely earned it.In academia, if someone earns a degree in physics but ends up in a career that has nothing to do with it, that doesn't mean it negates their qualification!K.This...but hamon is a whole other thing. Chris
Himokiri Karate Posted February 18, 2013 Author Posted February 18, 2013 You can't take a qualification away from someone who genuinely earned it.In academia, if someone earns a degree in physics but ends up in a career that has nothing to do with it, that doesn't mean it negates their qualification!K.I understand what your saying but in boxing if a skilled out-boxer who won the golden gloves stops practicing and tries to get back in the game. Chances are his skills will be dulled and he may have to work his way up by starting from foundation training until he regained his skills.I thought perhaps a black belt who stopped practicing may need to restart from brown belt until he or she is up to speed to his prior skillset as a blackbelt before he departed for whatever reason be it injury, personal prblems,laziness, lack of interest at that particulre time... It begins with the knowledge that the severity of a strikes impact is amplified by a smaller surface area.
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