Shinson Hapkido?

[Bluedot]

In the school I currently train in, the master gives commands which are not related to Korean Hapkido, in particular, he calls the stances "Jahse". Now I think that's a German word, although I'm not sure. Some korean terminology are also used, especially for the kicking drills (ap chagi, dollyo chagi, etc.). Now it happens that this man has trained Hapkido in Germany in his youth and after a little research, I've found that my style of Hapkido is VERY closely related to that of a Shinson Hapkido which appears to be a Europe based style (including the gorgeous black uniform).

I'm just curious about this Shinson Hapkido. It's not that my school is a scam, clearly the master is trying to teach a little modified version of his style of Hapkido to us (it's called Indo-Hapkido by the way, since I'm from India) and the techniques they are teaching are powerful (especially the grappling and the throws). I am a little confused about the origins of this style.. and of Shinson..

[ps1]

When in doubt...ask the google!!!

Here's the main webpage for International Shinson Hapkido Association:

http://www.shinsonhapkido.org/en/what-is-shinson-hapkido.html

[Dobbersky]

I wouldn't join a school because I liked the uniform?

I'm surprised you are Kyokushin and train in Hapkido. I remember one Hapkido school who told me I would have to stop practicing ALL other arts and concentrate on their school of Hapkido.

Don't worry about the words used in the school, I'm sure you are a confident enough martial artist to know what you're being taught is good or not.

[Bluedot]

I was Kyokushin. Actually, the place where I live in, every other layman uses the word "karate" to describe every martial style out there. It's very popular. Some people are taking advantage of this and thus all the karate dojos in the city have become something similar to the Mc.Dojo concept in US. I have left the dojo I belonged to and started Hapkido in my current dojang. It is true.. my dojang forbids me to belong to any other school.

I am not saying the techniques taught in my school are useless.. in fact, their grappling techniques and throws are practiced with resisting opponents which is not something commonly seen in most Hapkido schools. I just want to know more about the original style from which Indo-Hapkido is clearly derived, i.e. Shinson Hapkido. I have seen the website, but it provided me with little history as to where this style came from and its general history.. and its features comparitive to other styles of Hapkido.

[Dobbersky]

I have many friends in India, who practice Kyokushin, and also from offices my company have in Chennai & Bangalore.

Do you think the instructor has working in some Indian Wrestling etc.

[sensei8]

In the school I currently train in, the master gives commands which are not related to Korean Hapkido, in particular, he calls the stances "Jahse". Now I think that's a German word, although I'm not sure. Some korean terminology are also used, especially for the kicking drills (ap chagi, dollyo chagi, etc.). Now it happens that this man has trained Hapkido in Germany in his youth and after a little research, I've found that my style of Hapkido is VERY closely related to that of a Shinson Hapkido which appears to be a Europe based style (including the gorgeous black uniform).

I'm just curious about this Shinson Hapkido. It's not that my school is a scam, clearly the master is trying to teach a little modified version of his style of Hapkido to us (it's called Indo-Hapkido by the way, since I'm from India) and the techniques they are teaching are powerful (especially the grappling and the throws). I am a little confused about the origins of this style.. and of Shinson..

"Jahse" is not a German word. Possibly this link will shade a lot of light on things...

http://www.houseofdiscipline.com/pdf/Chapter2.pdf

[danbong]

In the school I currently train in, the master gives commands which are not related to Korean Hapkido, in particular, he calls the stances "Jahse". Now I think that's a German word, although I'm not sure. Some korean terminology are also used, especially for the kicking drills (ap chagi, dollyo chagi, etc.). Now it happens that this man has trained Hapkido in Germany in his youth and after a little research, I've found that my style of Hapkido is VERY closely related to that of a Shinson Hapkido which appears to be a Europe based style (including the gorgeous black uniform).

Jahse is the korean term for stance, much as dachi is the japanese term for stance.

I'm going to take a wild guess, but perhaps shinson hapkido is descended from sin mu hapkido. Sin (which according to some accounts should have been spelled shin) means mind. If I recall correctly, sin mu hapkido has a large following in europe.

[DWx]

In the school I currently train in, the master gives commands which are not related to Korean Hapkido, in particular, he calls the stances "Jahse". Now I think that's a German word, although I'm not sure. Some korean terminology are also used, especially for the kicking drills (ap chagi, dollyo chagi, etc.). Now it happens that this man has trained Hapkido in Germany in his youth and after a little research, I've found that my style of Hapkido is VERY closely related to that of a Shinson Hapkido which appears to be a Europe based style (including the gorgeous black uniform).

Jahse is the korean term for stance, much as dachi is the japanese term for stance.

From Googling it, seems to be only (Shinson) Hapkido schools which use this term. The normal Korean term used is "sogi".

I've never heard the term before myself but the Shinson Hapkido website ps1 linked to explains Jahse as:

Jahse consists of the physical form, internal adjustment, mental / spiritual position and respiration and internal force. Body (Chong), energy (Ki) and the psyche / spirit (Shin) must be brought into balance as a foundation for health and wellbeing.

http://www.shinsonhapkido.org/en/what-is-shinson-hapkido/trainingsformen.html

No idea what that means though. Some sort of training for Ki?

[Kusotare]

As I understand it, the founder grew up a Buddhist and studied medicine.

Hapkido is the Korean way to say/spell Aikido (both Hapkido and Aikido are decendant arts of Daito-ryu).

Ueshiba sensei and Aikido are noted for his / its the "holistic" qualities and it looks to me as though this school is taking the same path.

As well as the physical training of the body, there seems to be a big emphasis toward training Ki/Chi/ Energy and Shin/Spirit.

K.

[Kusotare]

Jahse is the korean term for stance, much as dachi is the japanese term for stance.

From Googling it, seems to be only (Shinson) Hapkido schools which use this term. The normal Korean term used is "sogi".

I've never heard the term before myself but the Shinson Hapkido website ps1 linked to explains Jahse as:

Jahse consists of the physical form, internal adjustment, mental / spiritual position and respiration and internal force. Body (Chong), energy (Ki) and the psyche / spirit (Shin) must be brought into balance as a foundation for health and wellbeing.

http://www.shinsonhapkido.org/en/what-is-shinson-hapkido/trainingsformen.html

No idea what that means though. Some sort of training for Ki?

Hello,

Go deep beneath the surface of many Japanese, Korean and Chinese systems and you will find that most (that are worth their salts) have these sort of exercises.

Exercises that are designed to build internal energy / strength, a good structure and grounding.

Check out an instructor Called Tobin Threadgill (from the Takamasa-ha Shindo Yoshin-ryu)

They have some exercises called "nairiki no gyo" designed to garner such power.

Then see how he can stand on one leg and you just cant push him over....