sensei8 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 This is some of the criteria that the WKF (World Karate Federation) uses when judging a kata performance. 1> The kata must be performed with competence and must demonstrate a clear understanding of the principles it contains. 2> The kata performance must have demonstrated correct focus of attention, use of power, good balance and proper breathing. 3> Consistency and correctness of stances. 4> Correct weight distribution according to the kihon being demonstrated. 5> Smooth and even transition (center remaining “weighted down”) between stances. 6> Correct tension in stance. 7> Feet edges firmly on floor. 8> Accuracy in techniques. 9> Correct and consistent kihon with the style being demonstrated. 10> Correct tension, focus, kime. 11> Show proper understanding of the kata bunkai. 12> Contrast in tension, breathing and movement. 13> An understanding of those techniques being demonstrated. 14> A realistic, rather than “theatrical ” demonstration of the Kata meaning.For discussion purposes only...Which criteria, if any, from the list above, do you not agree with and why?I'm not so keen with #7 and this is because of it's ambiguity. I was taught to do a reverse punch, for example, with the knife edge of the rear foot up but keeping the heel down & transferring the weight to the inside or instep. This is to:1. Maximize hip rotation 2. Center the power/weight up the middle line of the body and the inside of the thigh & base That being said, no matter how one's been taught, and no matter how one may or may not agree with WTF's criteria, one will have to execute in said manner if one wants to compete within any WKF venue. I suppose that it's the "when in Rome, do as the Romans do" kind of thing. **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobbersky Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 For me Kata is about self preservation, NOT about winning trophies.Good thread though, OSU "Challenge is a Dragon with a Gift in its mouth....Tame the Dragon and the Gift is Yours....." Noela Evans (author) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonWal Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I dont have much problem with the individual sport side of Kata, if a student is good at the kata aspect but not so much the kumite then good for them they are able to compete. I am sceptical about the team Kata though, that verges on the theatrical. Not so much the keeping in time with your teammates, I know how difficult that is and appreciate the amount of time that involves, but the way people wear the same Gi,the way they all have their hair cut the same way, I think it goes too far. Each to their own, but its not for me. Wado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWx Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 One of the things I've struggled to understand is how the WKF in these competitions go about comparing say a Wado Karateka to a Shotokan guy. It seems that competitors must be pigeonholed into their style. Maybe I'm thinking about it the wrong way but for instance #9 on the could be restrictive if they've cross trained or the fact that a competitor must do one of the kata that is deemed appropriate (by the WKF) for his/her style. But then again those are the rules of the game and if you want to play then you have to adhere to them. "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneshin Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 These appear to be the old criteria. The new ones are1. Conformanceto the form itself and the standards of the applicable school.2. Technical performancea. Stancesb. Techniquesc. Transitional movementsd. Timing/Synchronisatione. Correct breathingf. Focus (kime)3. Athletic performancea. Strength b. Speedc. Balance d. Rhythm4. Technical difficultyof the kata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 11> Show proper understanding of the kata bunkai. I'm curious here. Are they supposed to demonstrate bunkai after the kata performance? https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusotare Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 One of the things I've struggled to understand is how the WKF in these competitions go about comparing say a Wado Karateka to a Shotokan guy. It seems that competitors must be pigeonholed into their style. Maybe I'm thinking about it the wrong way but for instance #9 on the could be restrictive if they've cross trained or the fact that a competitor must do one of the kata that is deemed appropriate (by the WKF) for his/her style. But then again those are the rules of the game and if you want to play then you have to adhere to them.There is nothing to stop a Wado practitioner from doing any Kata he wants, from any style.I think you are referring to "Shitei" (compulsory) Kata rounds?This is usually only the first round of events and what it means is that if you want to do Chinto or Seishan - you have to do it the Wado way. If you want to do say Kanku-dai or Jion it has to be done the Shoto way and so on and so forth. There is nothing however stopping a wado kuy doing Kanku-dai, but he has to do it the correct “Shotokan” way according to how the WKF prescribe.The remaining rounds tend to be "Tokui" or free kata rounds - ie you can do any kata you want from any style.The problem is it doesn’t really work imo.Fact is, if a wado guy does Seishan against a Shoto Jion– chances are that the judges will go for the Shoto Jion, because it looks nicer.What this has led to is athletes learning how to perform all of the flashy looking Kata from across the styles, and disgarding the more "basic" looking ones which kinda defeats the point.K. Usque ad mortem bibendum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusotare Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 11> Show proper understanding of the kata bunkai. I'm curious here. Are they supposed to demonstrate bunkai after the kata performance?There is only a requirement to actually demonstrate bunkai in the team kata event, and then usually only in the finals.I think what this ruling means is that techniques should be performed in such a way it shows that the athlete has an understanding of correct bunkai.K. Usque ad mortem bibendum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWx Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 One of the things I've struggled to understand is how the WKF in these competitions go about comparing say a Wado Karateka to a Shotokan guy. It seems that competitors must be pigeonholed into their style. Maybe I'm thinking about it the wrong way but for instance #9 on the could be restrictive if they've cross trained or the fact that a competitor must do one of the kata that is deemed appropriate (by the WKF) for his/her style. But then again those are the rules of the game and if you want to play then you have to adhere to them.There is nothing to stop a Wado practitioner from doing any Kata he wants, from any style.I think you are referring to "Shitei" (compulsory) Kata rounds?This is usually only the first round of events and what it means is that if you want to do Chinto or Seishan - you have to do it the Wado way. If you want to do say Kanku-dai or Jion it has to be done the Shoto way and so on and so forth. There is nothing however stopping a wado kuy doing Kanku-dai, but he has to do it the correct “Shotokan” way according to how the WKF prescribe.The remaining rounds tend to be "Tokui" or free kata rounds - ie you can do any kata you want from any style.The problem is it doesn’t really work imo.Fact is, if a wado guy does Seishan against a Shoto Jion– chances are that the judges will go for the Shoto Jion, because it looks nicer.What this has led to is athletes learning how to perform all of the flashy looking Kata from across the styles, and disgarding the more "basic" looking ones which kinda defeats the point.K.Ahh thank you. The Shitei Kata was what I was referring to although I didn't know you had a free choice also. Still seems to me as though if you want to do your favourite Kata you are restricted in what you can choose. To me, going out of your way to learn Chinto in the Wado way when you are a Shotokan Karateka means diluting your Shotokan identity. But then again I guess that's sport. "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneshin Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 One of the things I've struggled to understand is how the WKF in these competitions go about comparing say a Wado Karateka to a Shotokan guy. It seems that competitors must be pigeonholed into their style. Maybe I'm thinking about it the wrong way but for instance #9 on the could be restrictive if they've cross trained or the fact that a competitor must do one of the kata that is deemed appropriate (by the WKF) for his/her style. But then again those are the rules of the game and if you want to play then you have to adhere to them.There is nothing to stop a Wado practitioner from doing any Kata he wants, from any style.I think you are referring to "Shitei" (compulsory) Kata rounds?This is usually only the first round of events and what it means is that if you want to do Chinto or Seishan - you have to do it the Wado way. If you want to do say Kanku-dai or Jion it has to be done the Shoto way and so on and so forth. There is nothing however stopping a wado kuy doing Kanku-dai, but he has to do it the correct “Shotokan” way according to how the WKF prescribe.The remaining rounds tend to be "Tokui" or free kata rounds - ie you can do any kata you want from any style.The problem is it doesn’t really work imo.Fact is, if a wado guy does Seishan against a Shoto Jion– chances are that the judges will go for the Shoto Jion, because it looks nicer.What this has led to is athletes learning how to perform all of the flashy looking Kata from across the styles, and disgarding the more "basic" looking ones which kinda defeats the point.K.As per my previous post the WKF kata rules have changed. There is no more Shitei requirement. Also practitioners are not restricted to performing kata from Shoto, Goji, Wado or Shito as per previous. Competitors simply need adhere to their dojo’s interpretation of the correct traditional kata of Karate. Minefield for the judges but better for competitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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