Kruczek Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Hopefully this is a good place for this. I am trying to get some data on how much people pay for monthly training and their belt fees. This is completely anonymous and would help me a lot with an article I am working on.If you would like to help: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDBRV1pRck9hSWlsY0FRSm9kam5FMWc6MQ#gid=0If not, thanks for reading . Okinawan Karate-Do Institutehttp://okiblog.com
Patrick Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Good luck with your research, Ted. Look forward to seeing your results.Thanks,Patrick Patrick O'Keefe - KarateForums.com AdministratorHave a suggestion or a bit of feedback relating to KarateForums.com? Please contact me!KarateForums.com Articles - KarateForums.com Awards - Member of the Month - User Guidelines
sensei8 Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 I did participate but not much of it applied to me in my current role at the Hombu. Still, I hope that it'll suffice. **Proof is on the floor!!!
Tzu-Logic Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 I responded. I hope it helps. A warrior may choose pacifism, all others are condemned to it."Under the sky, under the heavens, there is but one family." -Bruce Lee
DWx Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 I did it. Let us know the results I think your results might end up being a bit superficial though. Stuff like pricing is so subjective. Belt test prices especially. I'd pay much more for a full day's testing, belt included in fee, panel of examiners, breaking material included etc. than I would for a 30 min test and piece of electrical tape. "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius
sensei8 Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 I did it. Let us know the results I think your results might end up being a bit superficial though. Stuff like pricing is so subjective. Belt test prices especially. I'd pay much more for a full day's testing, belt included in fee, panel of examiners, breaking material included etc. than I would for a 30 min test and piece of electrical tape.It's not the main reason for why I/Hombu no longer charge for any testing cycle fees, but it still is an additional cost that students shouldn't have to bear. Whatever the student pays for tuition, have the percentage of the testing cycle be included into that tuition somehow and someway. How? Have your/an CPA break it down in such a way that you'll be able to wrap your head around it. Testing is an overhead, and this can't be denied. Nonetheless, just treat the testing cycle just like it is; overhead, and overhead is part of any business.If a student pays $100 per month, and the testing cycle happens every 3 months; that student has paid $300 by the time the testing cycle comes about. Of that $300: a small percentage pays for the rent, utilities, amenities, testing materials, misc., and in all of that, profit is still found. **Proof is on the floor!!!
DWx Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 I did it. Let us know the results I think your results might end up being a bit superficial though. Stuff like pricing is so subjective. Belt test prices especially. I'd pay much more for a full day's testing, belt included in fee, panel of examiners, breaking material included etc. than I would for a 30 min test and piece of electrical tape.It's not the main reason for why I/Hombu no longer charge for any testing cycle fees, but it still is an additional cost that students shouldn't have to bear. Whatever the student pays for tuition, have the percentage of the testing cycle be included into that tuition somehow and someway. How? Have your/an CPA break it down in such a way that you'll be able to wrap your head around it. Testing is an overhead, and this can't be denied. Nonetheless, just treat the testing cycle just like it is; overhead, and overhead is part of any business.If a student pays $100 per month, and the testing cycle happens every 3 months; that student has paid $300 by the time the testing cycle comes about. Of that $300: a small percentage pays for the rent, utilities, amenities, testing materials, misc., and in all of that, profit is still found.Good points and if you can factor in gradings into your tuition fees then your students have a very good deal. I don't mind paying our fees though. It covers a lot and I do think I get value for moneyThe other argument I think is that if you've paid monies towards a testing fee, it can make you try even harder otherwise it's money wasted. "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius
Shizentai Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 A good bit of what I have to pay for a test is money to send forms to Japan, have them processed, have a new certificate printed, then mailed back. So in my dojo we break the cost up into two parts, one smaller fee (which pays for Sensei's gas and meal money) is paid beforehand, and the dan registration is only paid in the event you pass. That is usually about $100, which I find to be ridiculously expensive, but that cut goes towards headquarters in Japan. "My work itself is my best signature."-Kawai Kanjiro
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