Wastelander Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 As I mentioned, I am not an evolutionary biologist. That said, the martial artist/university scientist I mentioned DOES happen to be an evolutionary biologist. He also happens to believe that most scientists, let along the general public, do not understand how evolution works. I'm not really qualified to argue for him, but this whole mess caused him to write up his own response. For those who would like to read the counter-argument, here is the link:http://www.genomicron.evolverzone.com/2012/12/another-just-so-story-this-time-about-fists/ Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf KarlssonShorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian RiveraIllinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorQui Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 What a sily report! Hands obviously developed with opposable thumbs after our alien overlords landed in their spaceship millions of years ago and introduced them to the natives!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWx Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 As I mentioned, I am not an evolutionary biologist. That said, the martial artist/university scientist I mentioned DOES happen to be an evolutionary biologist. He also happens to believe that most scientists, let along the general public, do not understand how evolution works. I'm not really qualified to argue for him, but this whole mess caused him to write up his own response. For those who would like to read the counter-argument, here is the link:http://www.genomicron.evolverzone.com/2012/12/another-just-so-story-this-time-about-fists/Thanks for getting his analysis up. Informative read and certainly explains more. TBH I read the paper as suggesting that the ability to make a fist was an added advantage to shape that developed and not a primary cause for it's development which seems to be in agreement with your friend.At any rate, it is interesting to think that formation of a fist is almost universal across martial arts styles. "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterPain Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 What a sily report! Hands obviously developed with opposable thumbs after our alien overlords landed in their spaceship millions of years ago and introduced them to the natives!! That makes as much sense as a lot of things people think. My fists bleed death. -Akuma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeZero Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 http://www.genomicron.evolverzone.com/2012/12/another-just-so-story-this-time-about-fists/That was pretty much my thoughts on the matter too, but I still found the article to have some interesting stuff in it. Didn't find the conclusion compelling, but the material in the argument was kind've cool, and it makes for a good read. "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." - Baleia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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