I noticed something Disturbing about judo...

[ShoriKid]

As martial artists we also tend to continue on long after other athletes have quit the field. Pro football, basketball, baseball, hockey or boxing all are done by their mid to late 30's.

That's a really good point. Not many athletes go into their 40's and 50's still doing hard contact sports. Martial artists are different in that respect. I'm also willing to bet that a lot of pro football, basketball, etc. players would have similar problems if they continued on the same level of activity.

I was told by a co-worker and avid football fan that the average NFL player only had a career of 5 years. May have been 3 years. Either way, most people competing at a pro level in sports are done by 30. I've seen several writers talking about pro boxers passing their "peak" at 30 and if they aren't in title contention by that point it's time to hang up the gloves.

We keep pushing past that point, accepting injuries and moving on. It isn't about poor development of basics or a lack of proper warm ups/stretching. It has a lot more to do with the whole body nature of the training. I take throws, sweeps and take downs on as a regular part of my stand up training. Along with joint manipulations and locks. I get kicked, punched, elbowed and kneed from my hair line to my feet. Then I put on a thicker gi and get tossed, locked, twisted and stranged for ground work. It's rough on the body and it builds up over time.

[bushido_man96]

I am a bit confused!??

Do martial arts school, negate foundation excercises and training due to it being considered boring among the popular demographic of students??

Ever since I restarted my boxing training from the very beginning, I found out that I lacked a good solid jab and proper footwork. Once I learned that, there was no more me clashing and getting shoulder checked by local brawlers, thus eleminating getting headbutted,hyperextending rotator cuffs....

When I cross trained in traditional martial arts hand conditioning my wrist improved and I didnt hurt my wrist in boxing that much again...

I wonder if perhaps you guys who practice judo/kyokushin can benefit from yoga,ballet and boxing. Because it sounds like the nature of judo/kyokushin is a bit too rough for the human body.

Martial Arts in general is rough on the human body.

I'm not a fan of negating foundational basics. Sure, it's boring, but important enough to bust out every class. It's also surprising how much farther you can go in a shorter period of time because of basics.

Basics and foundational exercises are always important, and I don't think many schools really slack off on them. Not that I've seen, anyways.

As far as adding more physical activities, like ballet or yoga, to already doing the current physical activities, will probably just put more wear and tear on the body than anything else. Its just the nature of physical activity to sustain injuries through overuse after some time. It just happens, and the best way to avoid injuries of this type, is to not do anything at all. But then, you run the risk of sedentary, and all the risks that come with it.

[bushido_man96]

As martial artists we also tend to continue on long after other athletes have quit the field. Pro football, basketball, baseball, hockey or boxing all are done by their mid to late 30's.

That's a really good point. Not many athletes go into their 40's and 50's still doing hard contact sports. Martial artists are different in that respect. I'm also willing to bet that a lot of pro football, basketball, etc. players would have similar problems if they continued on the same level of activity.

I was told by a co-worker and avid football fan that the average NFL player only had a career of 5 years. May have been 3 years. Either way, most people competing at a pro level in sports are done by 30. I've seen several writers talking about pro boxers passing their "peak" at 30 and if they aren't in title contention by that point it's time to hang up the gloves.

We keep pushing past that point, accepting injuries and moving on. It isn't about poor development of basics or a lack of proper warm ups/stretching. It has a lot more to do with the whole body nature of the training. I take throws, sweeps and take downs on as a regular part of my stand up training. Along with joint manipulations and locks. I get kicked, punched, elbowed and kneed from my hair line to my feet. Then I put on a thicker gi and get tossed, locked, twisted and stranged for ground work. It's rough on the body and it builds up over time.

I agree with both of you. Many adults aren't active after they get out of high school, and then more after being done with college. Injuries sustained in the younger days end helping us become predictors of the weather as time goes by. Its just the nature of physical activity. I won't quite, I know that.

[ShoriKid]

I agree with both of you. Many adults aren't active after they get out of high school, and then more after being done with college. Injuries sustained in the younger days end helping us become predictors of the weather as time goes by. Its just the nature of physical activity. I won't quite, I know that.

The number of high school guys who were football/basketball players and worked hard for years and then never do anything after is kind of sad. Too many have a bad case of the "used to coulds". They used to could do a lot of things, but they can't any more.

And what's wrong with being able to skip the weather report by the way your hands/shoulder/knees/back feel? I can tell you know that our weather will be colder and wetter in the next couple of days. Between that and the sewing, I can tell I'll have to tape my fingers to roll tomorrow night.

[pittbullJudoka]

I can tell I'll have to tape my fingers to roll tomorrow night.

Not all joint problems are coming from injuries but just plain wear and tear. I do have a a bad shoulder, elbow, knee ect. Some from injuries some from well what ever. I recently in the past few months have had to start taping fingers during jiu jitsu due to the fact they feel like the are pulling apart with some grips I use. I have to tape during any type of monitor that requires me to grip and pull up. My grip strength is fine is just seemed one day my fingers were going to pull in half due to the pain of major resistance. Tape is my friend ask Shorikid I have a couple rolls in my bag, at home, in the dojo, in the office I'm never too far from my tape. Things get wore out as you get older but hey it's life. We're in a contact sport were injuries can and do happen its part of our Rick and I accept that.