JusticeZero Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Right. A lot of the AmeriTeDo snark comes from when people make a fork but don't show a need for the fork. I've heard of a jujutsu style created for reason of training with the assumption that one is wearing heavy mittens, for instance; this creates a number of different assumptions that goes back to the core techniques and the whole root tactics of the style, and is a good example of a fork that I doubt anyone will object to. The addition of a few pieces of material are not going to have that effect on the core, unless it is material that you absolutely need to use all the time for some specific reason. "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." - Baleia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha One Four Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 To be honest, my art is going to be a revival of Kalaripayattu, REAL Okinawan Te, and old Gungfu. The knife training will be basic and enough to know how to counter. Everyone will also get basic self defense techniques like using keys as weapons. None of this is new, but I am going to teach in a scientific way. I will explain the relationship between every movement and kinesiology. Nerve strikes, pressure points, joint locking, grappling, knee strikes, elbow strikes, punches, kicks, blocks, counters, and even yoga stretching are all there. A lot of the techniques will be things everyone has seen, but the same could be said about Taekwondo, Kuk Sool Won, Kenpo Karate... It is the way you present the techniques that make a difference. The training is something I can't wait to teach. I developed workouts 100% for fighting. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit." -Aristotle"It's not about who's right, but who's left" -Ed Parker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 To be honest, my art is going to be a revival of Kalaripayattu, REAL Okinawan Te, and old Gungfu.I hate to play the devil's advocate but do you have any experience in either of those three? I seem to recall the majority of your training was in Kuk Sul Won and a year or so of karate training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I wish there were FMA near me. It would be so valuable. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha One Four Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 To be honest, my art is going to be a revival of Kalaripayattu, REAL Okinawan Te, and old Gungfu.I hate to play the devil's advocate but do you have any experience in either of those three? I seem to recall the majority of your training was in Kuk Sul Won and a year or so of karate training.I have an unbelievable skill that allows me to read books. My Shorin-Ryu Master has also done homework on what the Okinawans didn`t want to teach the Japanese. As far as Kalaripayattu and Gunfu, all you need to do is break down the science of what we know eand then you can see what made them effective. The truth is, everyone who knew the original stuff has long since passed. I believe all the information is in the physics. Its not difficult to figure out. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit." -Aristotle"It's not about who's right, but who's left" -Ed Parker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzu-Logic Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Bread and butter for me? Filipino boxing styles. Various strike combos with lot's of knee level kicks. It's very effective at close range. A lot of elbows.Kadena de Mano principles of "defanging the snake" meaning attacking the arms and hands to take away the enemy's weapons.I practice a lot of various katas and techniques, but if I needed to defend myself I know for sure that stuff would flow out of me. A warrior may choose pacifism, all others are condemned to it."Under the sky, under the heavens, there is but one family." -Bruce Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) My Shorin-Ryu Master has also done homework on what the Okinawans didn`t want to teach the Japanese.This is going to kind of hard to dig up, seeing as all those fellows are dead and gone. I didn't realize there were restraints on what they Okinawans wanted to teach the Japanese. Funakoshi learned from Okinawa, and I although he changed some things, I don't think he held too much back from what he learned. I'm interested in what kind of information you have here.As far as Kalaripayattu and Gunfu, all you need to do is break down the science of what we know eand then you can see what made them effective. The truth is, everyone who knew the original stuff has long since passed. I believe all the information is in the physics. Its not difficult to figure out.So, your kind of taking a bunkai-esque approach to digging things out of these techniques, then? Edited November 8, 2012 by bushido_man96 https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeZero Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Tricky to know what you're looking at with that approach, it's far too easy to just project what you're used to seeing into the techniques. Especially true when working from such a low quality information source as stills, which have poor body positioning data (because of the 2d snapshot nature) and minimal information on flow and directions of force. "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." - Baleia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Yeah, its a crap shoot. Medieval Weapons stylists have been using a combination of text and picture interpretation couple with sparring and applications work like this to study what was actually being taught all those years ago. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuma Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I have an unbelievable skill that allows me to read books. My Shorin-Ryu Master has also done homework on what the Okinawans didn`t want to teach the Japanese. As far as Kalaripayattu and Gunfu, all you need to do is break down the science of what we know eand then you can see what made them effective. The truth is, everyone who knew the original stuff has long since passed. I believe all the information is in the physics. Its not difficult to figure out.So after just a few short years of training, you honestly feel you have exhausted the systems you are learning to the point where the only way to further yourself is the creation of a new martial system? And I personally do not believe someone with just one year of karate training would have the knowledge and capacity to fully understand karate and be able to pass it on in that extremely short period. There are some other posters on here who have probably been training in different systems longer than you have been alive that have still not yet exhausted what their systems has to offer. Is it really out of necessity, or if after taking a good hard look at it is it more of an ego thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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