Letting Go

[sensei8]

I've one little question...

When is it time to let students go from under your wing?

Once they're Sandan [3rd Dan]?

Once they've opened up their own dojo/school?

Let the discussion begin.

[andym]

It must totally depend on the student, IMHO.

[darksoul]

I agree it depends on the student... I'm hoping to be under my master's wing well into 5th dan.

[bushido_man96]

It depends on opportunities, as well. I could probably have a branch school under my instructor's, if I wanted one, but the issue is I would have to drive at least 40 to 45 minutes one way to hold the classes in a different town. I just don't have the resources or desire to do this, with work and family and all that going on.

During my ATA days, when I ran my own school, I was on my own, and had to train on my own for the most part. Now, that I get to do the training, I think its much better for me, as I always enjoy learning, and I do better when I have someone else pushing me and a class to compete with.

[tallgeese]

I agree, it depends on the student, the situation, and what one means by being let out of from under an instructors wing.

I was a brown belt when I went to college and joined a club there to cross train. I ended up coaching there and competing out of another club while still training with my original instructor. I also started seriously studying a second art while I was around 1st kyu during this time.

So was I out from under my instructor's wing? Kind of, I guess, kind of like college as a whole I guess.

I'm not entirely sure I'm full on out from under his wing to this day. Everything I do in a martial sense is somehow influenced by what I learned from him.

[FangPwnsAll7]

It depends on the student. I know many dan ranks in our dojo but they still train here with the master.

[lowereastside]

This is my opinion - on this subject. I teach Kung Fu - no belts. The style that I Teach is very hands on - 10 years is the goal - 2 of my Senior Students have learned my curriculum - They know all the Forms - empty hands and weapons - The training methods - the medicine ( herbs, message, etc). But what i can't teach them is my internalization of the system - my experience. IMO for them to grow/take it to the next level - they had to be on their own - They had to teach their own students - and this they did. We still keep in touch (friendship) - And every so often we check up on each other's progress - The advancement they have made would not have been possible if they still were with me. For me it's the 10 year rule - however everyone is different for some it may take a little longer. But there comes a time when the birds must fly the coup.

[DWx]

I like lowereastside's answer.

IMHO I would say it depends on the student but also more about time than about grade.

When is it time to let students go from under your wing?

What does letting go mean exactly?

I think I'll always go to my instructor for guidance even when I'm not seeing him day-to-day.

[Evil Dave]

When it feels right. This could be for either the student or instructor. Also, there are different reasons to move on, from training options, personal, ethical, moral, professional {outside the dojo}, professional {within the dojo} or any of number of reasons.

[sensei8]

I like lowereastside's answer.

IMHO I would say it depends on the student but also more about time than about grade.

When is it time to let students go from under your wing?

What does letting go mean exactly?

I think I'll always go to my instructor for guidance even when I'm not seeing him day-to-day.

Letting go here means about the same thing as when a parent(s) lets their child/children go; leaving the house on their own.

Life must be experienced because life is an experience.