Barbaric Mike Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 I have to admit that I'm not completely sure what the term "initernal" means, but I've read that hard striking styles like Hung Ga and CLF have internal forms that are good for health. Something akin to Qigong I would imagine. Does anyone know if karate has these types of forms?
JusticeZero Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Im frankly nkt completely sold on the division of the two. It seems more likeba statement about focus in techniques, and it has further been noted that BJJ types tend to be better at relaxed power than taiji typesEven the IMA experts have been known to have ambiguity about how to define "Internal", so confusion and sarcasm are to be expected. "Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." - Baleia
Barbaric Mike Posted July 26, 2012 Author Posted July 26, 2012 Thanks JZ. Like I said I'm not sure what it all means anyway. I guess it was just idle curiosity.
Dobbersky Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Wouldn't SanChin be on the boarders of "internal" Forms ORhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kybxNOlnl20OR even Tensho Katahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrIRrnrC7nc&feature=fvwrel "Challenge is a Dragon with a Gift in its mouth....Tame the Dragon and the Gift is Yours....." Noela Evans (author)
Barbaric Mike Posted July 26, 2012 Author Posted July 26, 2012 Wouldn't SanChin be on the boarders of "internal" Forms ORhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kybxNOlnl20OR even Tensho Katahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrIRrnrC7nc&feature=fvwrelD'oh!!
Mr.Olympus Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 I am an instructor and been practicing martial arts for 30 years Okinawan Goju Ryu, and a history of Kung-fu. Yes there are several arts that practice internal strength training or Chi-Kung. The first karate art to practice such was Goju Ryu, also known as Naha-te with Sanchin for hardening the body and Tensho for the equivolent of Tai chi. The sister art of Goju Ryu Uchi Ryu also practices this form of martial arts. {Mr.Olympus}
shinobitribe Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I dont know about other styles of karate but Sanchin and Tensho katas, I guess would be the closest that karate would come to tai chi and other internal forms. The focus and concentration on breathing and power generation to keep the body tensed throughtout the kata is done focusing on your hara , tanden or centre. Most of the old masters used to also practice ikibuki form of breathing.
evergrey Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Sanchin in Kyokushin is both external and internal... though they all are in a way, but this one is a lot more about focus, and it is more spiritual in nature.Of course, it being Kyokushin, spiritual in nature still involves getting beat with sticks and fists and stuff while you're testing with this kata. http://kyokushinchick.blogspot.com/"If you can fatally judo-chop a bull, you can sit however you want." -MasterPain, on why Mas Oyama had Kyokushin karateka sit in seiza with their clenched fists on their thighs.
MasterPain Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Of course, it being Kyokushin, spiritual in nature still involves getting beat with sticks and fists and stuff while you're testing with this kata.Is there any kind of spiritual practice that doesn't involve some level of blunt force trauma? If anyone says "yes", I'll call shinannigans. My fists bleed death. -Akuma
yamesu Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 Of course, it being Kyokushin, spiritual in nature still involves getting beat with sticks and fists and stuff while you're testing with this kata.Is there any kind of spiritual practice that doesn't involve some level of blunt force trauma? If anyone says "yes", I'll call shinannigans. "We did not inherit this earth from our parents. We are borrowing it from our children."
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