yamesu Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 In Kyokushin we do a lot of the blocks shown in the first and second links. The third link has some resemblance to what we do, but it looks like it is done with more flow, and generally these techniques (such as kokken, or wrist blocks) are not taught in-depth until students are of a higher rank.Thanks for this post, I find this quite interesting.Osu. "We did not inherit this earth from our parents. We are borrowing it from our children." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksoul Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 In Kyokushin we do a lot of the blocks shown in the first and second links. The third link has some resemblance to what we do, but it looks like it is done with more flow, and generally these techniques (such as kokken, or wrist blocks) are not taught in-depth until students are of a higher rank.Thanks for this post, I find this quite interesting.Osu.Well thanks for reading!The 8 and 10 point blocks are very much taken from Japanese karate. The plum tree is more kung fu. The way I'm being told to re-work Plum tree makes me feel like I'm doing kung fu in a karate gi Edit: Learned a new technique yesterday - drunken kung fu kempo. Surprisingly effective. Shodan - Shaolin Kempo███████████████▌█ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulubis Minor Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 chicken wrist sounds really neat, what exactly is it, because karate might have it. "There are two rules for being successful in Martial Arts.Rule 1: Never tell others everything you know." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamsIAmz Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 That is interesting to see such a distinct transition. There are many different views on the development of martial arts throughout a lifetime, but I feel that generally you either start circular and progress to linear, or you start linear and progress to more circular so I definitely see what you mean by it being a natural progression.Perhaps one of the coolest experiences I've had as a martial artist: One time I met this exchange student at college from China. He had grown up doing tai-chi and was at the point that it was being performed faster and more linear. I grew up doing karate and my karate has always naturally been more fluid/circular. So we got to talking and comparing a large number of techniques. Turns out, we started on opposite ends of the spectrum but we were meeting somewhere in the middle between the stereotypical definition of Chinese martial arts and japanese martial arts.It really is fascinating the fine balance between hard and soft, circular and linear, expanding and contracting.Thanks for the post, its really cool to hear about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksoul Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 chicken wrist sounds really neat, what exactly is it, because karate might have it.The chicken wrist is like figure 24 on this website: http://www.karate-made-easy.com/karate-wrist-attacks.htmlThe strike is with the (now hardened thanks to the finger position and bent wrist) part of the wrist. If you just put your hand in the position and feel the top of your wrist, you'll notice it is incredibly hard. That is interesting to see such a distinct transition. There are many different views on the development of martial arts throughout a lifetime, but I feel that generally you either start circular and progress to linear, or you start linear and progress to more circular so I definitely see what you mean by it being a natural progression.Perhaps one of the coolest experiences I've had as a martial artist: One time I met this exchange student at college from China. He had grown up doing tai-chi and was at the point that it was being performed faster and more linear. I grew up doing karate and my karate has always naturally been more fluid/circular. So we got to talking and comparing a large number of techniques. Turns out, we started on opposite ends of the spectrum but we were meeting somewhere in the middle between the stereotypical definition of Chinese martial arts and japanese martial arts.It really is fascinating the fine balance between hard and soft, circular and linear, expanding and contracting.Thanks for the post, its really cool to hear about! Absolutely! This is why I love Shaolin Kempo so much - it's an incredibly complete style. The way the Kung Fu and Karate merge is quite seamless and the addition of some ground work, holds, joint locks, and all around movement and speed make it devastating with the right martial artist. It's the perfect style for me and I love talking about it. Shodan - Shaolin Kempo███████████████▌█ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vantheman Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I also enjoy the Shaolin and Chinese aspects of kempo. After doing so many techniques and forms leading up to black, to be able to do loose and flowing techniques. Just a separate question, what are your form and technique requirements for 1st and 2nd DAN?For me, it is:1st DAN1-5 Pinan1-5 Kata8 Point Blocking System10 Point/Pine Tree Blocking System1-20 combinationAnd a bunch of strikes and self defense techniquesand 1 higher form or weapon form2nd DANAll of the 1st DAN requirements6 KataStatue of the CraneHan SukiTwo Man fist set (both sides)Swift TigersIron FortressCombinations 21-301 Add'l weapon or higher form Van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badclams Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Great thread, lotta difference here so far at 3rd brown I have Statue of crane, 1st of two man soft fist, and combinations 1 thru 18 and 26, twentysix kempo's or one steps, Pinyons 1-5, katas 1-4, and knife and club defences. Our school is also introducing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu so we have ground defence as well. So far I have been with our school for allmost seven years, lotta cool folks that have become family, I love Kempo/Kenpo ! Lead, follow, or get the hell outta my way ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Sounds like things are going well for you. Keep it up! https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksoul Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 I also enjoy the Shaolin and Chinese aspects of kempo. After doing so many techniques and forms leading up to black, to be able to do loose and flowing techniques. Just a separate question, what are your form and technique requirements for 1st and 2nd DAN?For me, it is:1st DAN1-5 Pinan1-5 Kata8 Point Blocking System10 Point/Pine Tree Blocking System1-20 combinationAnd a bunch of strikes and self defense techniquesand 1 higher form or weapon form2nd DANAll of the 1st DAN requirements6 KataStatue of the CraneHan SukiTwo Man fist set (both sides)Swift TigersIron FortressCombinations 21-301 Add'l weapon or higher formSorry it took so long to reply to this, it apparently fell off my "since you last logged in list"For first Dan, my requirements were:1-5 Pinan1-6 KataStature of the Crane2 Man Fist Set (both North and South)1-21 and 26 combinationabout 30 kempo combinations (punch techniques as we call them)8 point block10 point blockPlum tree blockClub/Knife techniquesFor 2nd Dan, I needall of 1st Dan (obviously)Han SukiSwift TigersIron Fortress (I think)22-25,27-30 combinations10 more Kempo combinations (punch techniques as we call them)aaaaaand... I think that's it. Cheers Shodan - Shaolin Kempo███████████████▌█ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Don't you just love all the black belt requirements? Makes it great, and hey, if you aren't tired after a testing, then there isn't enough material, right? There's a guy at my school that always comments on my ability to come back to class, and look like I haven't missed a beat. He doesn't realize how much practice it takes outside of class to retain it all. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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