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I recently spoke with a guy from the same style as my whose Dojo have a black belt rank (via grading) followed, 12 months later by a 1st Dan rank (again via grading). In another style I did they had a PreDan between 1st Kyu and 1st Dan but the belt colour didn't change!

Has anyone else heard of being a black belt but NOT a first Dan?

I thought it was quite unusual!

Is it unusual?

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It does sound odd, but I can see what they are doing. The TKD styles I have been in have "recommended" black belt ranks, but we still called them 1st dan. This could just be a different way of doing this same thing. Although, I don't think it makes sense to call one a black belt but not a 1st dan.

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I've heard of a few kickboxing schools that do have this system. They also have to grade for their white belts too.

"Challenge is a Dragon with a Gift in its mouth....Tame the Dragon and the Gift is Yours....." Noela Evans (author)

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BJJ uses the same stripe rank for BB's as it does for the other ranks. So, when one gets their bb, it is plain. After 1 year, you're eligible (not necessarily meaning you're going to get it) for the first stripe on your black belt. It's simply referred to as "stripes" though, not dan.

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Are they maybe having it that way just to make the student pay more?

My style, black belt = 1st dan

Well,I didn't want to sound cynical in the OP but the school in question is a franchised Dojo, not that far off a McDojo.

Fortunately, in my Dojo its BB = 1st D

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Just to add

I think the ONLY way this CAN be feasible is if the school operates the "Ho" levels which I know is a bonefide grade in itself. It like an apprentice Grade or a partial grade.

So you would get:

Ik Kyu

Shodan Ho

Shodan

Nidan Ho

Nidan

Sandan Ho

Sandan

"Challenge is a Dragon with a Gift in its mouth....Tame the Dragon and the Gift is Yours....." Noela Evans (author)

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Well,I didn't want to sound cynical in the OP but the school in question is a franchised Dojo, not that far off a McDojo.

Nice of you, but I'm rather cynical as well. I think there are already enough levels without introducing new ones.

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