Press ups as a punishment!

[DoctorQui]

I can see applying something for being late, because there are a lot of adults that see nothing wrong with being habitually late. Low stance stuff maybe.

Surely being charged for a full session when they get only 3/4 is punishment enough. Being late for something that you want to attend and pay to attend is, after all, not wasting the Sensei time. Even longer if Sensei will not allow them to join the class until he allows them to.

Got get me wrong, I don't disagree with you and see your point fully. I just have a bit of a problem with Adults being 'told off' in class.

Edited July 1, 2012 by DoctorQui

[JusticeZero]

You would think! but that isn't actually how peoples' brains calculate that out. And if I have to explain an exercize twice because someone walked in after I set everything up, my time is indeed being wasted.

[DoctorQui]

You would think! but that isn't actually how peoples' brains calculate that out. And if I have to explain an exercize twice because someone walked in after I set everything up, my time is indeed being wasted.

I hear you, it is annoying for sure BUT simply not letting the person join in until you move on the next demonstration would probably be sufficient.

I know instructors who, if someone is late and misses warm up, will make them do their own warm up in the time it takes for them to go through some techniques or instructions. After the warm up, the student rejoins when they can be present for 100% of the next demo. The student actually ends up getting even less for their money! Say the warm up is 15minutes, they arrive 15 minutes late, they then actually end up missing half the class rather than 3/4 because of the 15 minute warm up they must do.

Don't get me wrong, I see your point completely. I just have a bit of a thing about Adult students being treated like children in class which happens sometimes!

[evergrey]

I guess I have a different perspective because my Shihan only taught military personnel and their families for 25 years. To me it seems normal that adults get push-ups.

[DWx]

I can see applying something for being late, because there are a lot of adults that see nothing wrong with being habitually late. Low stance stuff maybe.

Surely being charged for a full session when they get only 3/4 is punishment enough. Being late for something that you want to attend and pay to attend is, after all, not wasting the Sensei time. Even longer if Sensei will not allow them to join the class until he allows them to.

Got get me wrong, I don't disagree with you and see your point fully. I just have a bit of a problem with Adults being 'told off' in class.

Its not even just missing 1/4 or 1/2 a class though. It does waste the sensei's time as ultimately they will have to cover it again even if they don't do it that lesson. Also when I take a class I like to build things up and follow on from what I said 15 minutes ago. If you miss the start of my class you won't get the full benefit of the rest of my class unless I repeat myself.

I think its disrespectful too if there wasn't a genuine reason you were late. Being habitually late is like saying you don't care much for the sensei and his instruction if you don't think the first 15 minutes is worth turning up for.

Nothing wrong with telling adults off if they act out. Its what they signed up for when they signed up to the class. I suppose if people objected to pushups I'd just kick them out of my class instead and refuse to teach the,.

[JusticeZero]

Right; lately i've been having a few days of *show up to class on time by 9 AM having bicycled 7 miles in 105 F weather to get there* *stand around in the studio* *students come dragging in at 9:30*

[usdhjd]

I don't see it as a punishment.

Its also a relaxing exercise for the person that is full of anxiety cuz of work/kids/problems you name it.

Karate like many martial arts requires you to be relaxed before attempting techniques so by doing some good efficient exercise like press ups (or push ups as we call them) is always correcting your 'attitude' in a positive manner imho.

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[DoctorQui]

I don't see it as a punishment.

Its also a relaxing exercise for the person that is full of anxiety cuz of work/kids/problems you name it.

Karate like many martial arts requires you to be relaxed before attempting techniques so by doing some good efficient exercise like press ups (or push ups as we call them) is always correcting your 'attitude' in a positive manner imho.

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Sac Longchamp

But in the context of the OP, telling someone to do press ups (push ups) or extended Kibadach (or any other uncomfortable physical activity) for 'doing something wrong' is punishment. I don't mean warm up at the beginning and end!

[SimonAsh86]

Its not a punishment where i train, we do them no matter what, my sensei can praise us then in the next breath tells to do knuckle pressups.

Personally im somewhat indifferent to them, im used to them as ive done that many but i wouldnt go as far as to say i like them.

[DoctorQui]

Its not a punishment where i train, we do them no matter what, my sensei can praise us then in the next breath tells to do knuckle pressups.

Personally im somewhat indifferent to them, im used to them as ive done that many but i wouldnt go as far as to say i like them.

Press ups are not a pumishment in my Dojo either but, as I said in a previous post, some instructors do use them as a punishment.

In a line up, doing techniques, one person does something wrong and the instructor singles them out and tell them (and noone else) to do 10 press ups. This can't be seen as anything but a punishment, no matter how it is dressed up, surely! You are being told to do a physical activity which is, usually disliked, because the instructor is not happy with you.