Top 5 judo throws for street application

[straightblast]

I am not a Judo player but I am interested in adopting some throws. What would you consider the top 5 throws worth learning for street applications?

Regards

[MasterPain]

I'm not a Judo player either, but my favorite Judo throw is by far the uchi mata. It's easy to learn the basic technique, it works no-gi with little modification, it chains together well with other throws. Also, if it fails, you have not given up your back. Works well in a stick fight as well.

I met a high level Judo coach once, and he said the game he teaches revolves around the uchi mata.

[Wastelander]

I met a high level Judo coach once, and he said the game he teaches revolves around the uchi mata.

I have found that this tends to be the case for MANY high level judo coaches--one of my instructors used it to win almost every competition he ever entered (he calls it the "big gun").

In any case, I trained in judo regularly for about 4 years, although now I just integrate it into my karate training. For self defense, I like deashi barrai, osoto gari, koshi guruma (although I tend to turn this into harai goshi if I need an extra boost of power), and a side-step uchi-mata. That's like four-and-a-half throws for self defense

[ps1]

O soto gari (leg reap)- most versitile

Single Leg (no longer legal in comps)

O goshi

Tani Otoshi (works great off a failed o goshi)

koshi guruma

[Ueshirokarate]

O soto gari (leg reap)- most versitile

Single Leg (no longer legal in comps)

O goshi

Tani Otoshi (works great off a failed o goshi)

koshi guruma

Generally speaking, I would be very careful deploying any Judo throw in a street fight. You may also go down and falling onto concrete is not quite the same as a mat. Some of these throws have the potential to kill both your opponent or you.

[ps1]

O soto gari (leg reap)- most versitile

Single Leg (no longer legal in comps)

O goshi

Tani Otoshi (works great off a failed o goshi)

koshi guruma

Generally speaking, I would be very careful deploying any Judo throw in a street fight. You may also go down and falling onto concrete is not quite the same as a mat. Some of these throws have the potential to kill both your opponent or you.

I get what you're saying. However, that's where training comes in. If you train for judo, where all you care about is the guy falling and not how you land, I would agree with you. But doing each of these properly, you will end up on the top.

The likelihood of killing someone is the same as it would be with any throw or takedown. Heck...a single punch could cause death in extreme circumstances. So, if you're fighting for your life anyway, you're not going to be concerned with killing your opponent. If you are, you're thinking too much, and are probably already seriously hurt. As far as hitting the concrete, that's something that people should train. In the military we regularly trained on the pavement, in the sand, and on wood floors. The ground can be painful, but is usually inevitable, and it's not made of lava.

I guess my point is that your argument can be applied to anything. I could say the same thing about punching, kicking, weapons, grappling ect... It's fighting and Self Defense. It's inherently dangerous. Considering most "self defense" situations occur as an ambush...it's quite likely you're already injured badly when you begin your defense.

As far as the specific techniques I chose...here's my reasoning:

O Soto Gari: Major outside leg reap: This is a very versatile move that can be found in every martial art. From collar grabs to punches, this move can be applied and leave you up and your opponent down.

Single Leg: This move is also very versatile and does not require you to go to the ground to finish it. Again, you end standing while your opponent ends on the ground.

O Goshi: Hip Toss: Great move that will cause one of two things to happen: 1) The opponent gets thrown. 2) The opponent fights not to be thrown. The first is great as you can either remain standing or land on top of him. The second will either create enough space to break the clinch or set up for.....

Tani Otoshi: Sit Down throw/ Rear Sacrifice Throw: Probably the most dangerous on my list because it is a sacrifice throw. However, when trained properly (as I'm assuming for all of these) you will end in mount or side control.

Koshi Guruma: Good for situations where the opponent is grabbing and pushing, be it a choke or grabbing the shirt ect... Again, you end standing or in side control.

I would also add foot sweeps into this, but the OP just asked for our opinion our top 5.

Like I said, I'm assuming the person doing the throws is well trained and has control of their body. As long as that's the case, these 5 will work well for them. If they stink at throwing...they were in trouble trying it anyway.

[brickshooter]

Osoto Gari

Seoi Nage (in case I'm surprised from behind)

Ashi Waza (I like to apply this one after kneeing my attacker in the groin... whether hit or miss)

[Dobbersky]

All these throws and many more are found in karate kata. I love Judo though, should have taken it up instead of the Jujitsu and other styles I spent my years on!

[ps1]

All these throws and many more are found in karate kata. I love Judo though, should have taken it up instead of the Jujitsu and other styles I spent my years on!

You'd be surprised. With what Judo has become due to the pressure of Olympic status, you should be glad you aren't doing it. Most throws end up with the thrower on the bottom. Not good. They had to take out most of the high percentage throws because they IOC felt the art was looking too much like wrestling.

[dimitris72]

I'm not a Judo player either, but my favorite Judo throw is by far the uchi mata. It's easy to learn the basic technique, it works no-gi with little modification, it chains together well with other throws. Also, if it fails, you have not given up your back. Works well in a stick fight as well.

I met a high level Judo coach once, and he said the game he teaches revolves around the uchi mata.

Uchi mata is not easy.

My top 5 would be

Osoto gari

Tai otoshi

Koshi guruma

Harai Goshi

Deashi barai(foot sweep)