A no bull guide to KI exercises

[Eye of the Tiger]

It certainly helps control your emotions.

[Kensai]

I have had Ki "work", not all the time, but it does.

 

Just looked at the page, it is an Aikido page.

 

The Ki exercises work VERY well. If you can use them in training against attacks, than the actual defences, the techniques work a lot better if you see what I mean.

 

All the "Cool Ki Tricks" I have done, and they really work. The Kokyu (breath power).

 

When it comes to killing emotion, this takes along time. My friend studies Qi Qong, and the effect of his training can be clearly seen, even when sparring.

[Eye of the Tiger]

So Kensai you think its a good idea to combine breath power (meditation) with KI exercises (spiritual energy) I noticed these two are both practiced in Aikido, breasth power is used as clearing the mind and relaxing the whole body and KI for strenghening their spiritual energy to use in their techniques. I think combining muscle power with KI is more effective than just KI on its own do't you think?

[Kensai]

lol.

 

Tiger you are missing the point, once one has the ability to control Ki, the size and strength of one's muscles are not important. As you increase the size of your muscles, you prohibit the flow of ki. Look at the great Wudang and Aikido masters, they were not hugely musclar men, they were toned and fit yes.(as a healthy mind needs a healthy body). Yet they could easily dispatch a larger oppenent. You only have to read Sun Lu Tang's book to see this.

 

Muscles and strength mean nothing once you can control your own Ki. If you tense your arms for a punch, then you stop the flow of Ki. Ki works best in fluid circular motions, even Hsing I punchs slightly arch. Like you said Kokyu relaxs the body, so tensing for a strike will not help.

[Eye of the Tiger]

So KI really isnt important for me?

[Kensai]

Depends.

 

Do you want to be a good martial artist, or a great martial artist?

 

Just my opiniuon.

 

Take Care

[Eye of the Tiger]

I watched a programme today about Tae Kwon Do and how you can master your 'unseen life force' into techniques through punching and kicking. This done through the fact that the arm or legs stays relaxed through travel and tenses just prior to the moment of impact but can still deliver power through spiritual energy even if it is to just quicken the punch.

 

I do understand in Aikido how size and age is not important since you are using your KI not strengh and size. One thing though Kensai. If muscle prevents spiritual energy through passing through it are you saying it passes better through fat? lol. I do understand that it passes through relaxed muscle sol how does more muscle affect it.

[Kensai]

lol, fat. Hmm....

 

It is nothing to do with that, of course the healther you are the better the Ki will flow. But being overly muscular, or overly fat, will not help.

 

Most serious Aikidoka, are indeed very fit, not so much fit as solid.

 

Take Care

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I am aware of the use of Kiai's, in Aikido they are done silently, the shout itself is not important

 

It was said that Morihei Ueshiba's piercing kiai could be heard from a half-mile away. That's an indirect quote from "Budo", which has a foreward about his life.

 

The shout itself is not important, but when the time came he could shout!

[Kensai]

I have the budo, it is a very good book. However my Sensei, Sensei Williams, a direct student of Sensei Abbe and Sensei Tohei, believed that ALL aikido techniques should be done with a silent kiai. But I think in a real situation, Kiai's should be done out loud.

 

Take Care