Martial_Artist Posted September 26, 2002 Author Share Posted September 26, 2002 ....but it is the culmination of that which is inherent+that which is learned+that which is properly applied at the proper moment.... Pretty well put. That's a good way of saying it. Innate ability + type of training + Elements governing the moment "I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination.Imagination is more important than knowledge.Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 That's true. Why else would people cross train ? It takes sacrifice to be the best.There are always two choices, two paths to take. One is easy. And its only reward is that it's easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 Hmm, I wonder if people who say 'it's the fighter' are the people who don't believe in cross training and that they can stop a fight from going to the ground against a skilled grappler. That being said, I've probably said that myself at one time or another. Paradigm-shift. Yes, it comes down to the fighter - whether he/she will train for as many situations as possible, including striking, grappling, weapon training and pre-clinch. Hence, their art(s). It takes sacrifice to be the best.There are always two choices, two paths to take. One is easy. And its only reward is that it's easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle-san Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 Hmm, I wonder if people who say 'it's the fighter' are the people who don't believe in cross training and that they can stop a fight from going to the ground against a skilled grappler. I say "it's the fighter" more often than not, and I'm all for cross training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDMASTER Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 One art dont win all the time, does it? My personally opinion is that its the person always more than the art. I dont consider point fighting a true fighting art.(which is what olympic tkd trains in)Just like putting a true fighter thats never point sparred in a point tournement. He would probally lose first round. Ive done some point fighting and attended quite a few tourn. But I dont rely on that to win in a real fight. I go back to when we train our kicks,punches,self defense moves,blocks etc..... The best man will about allways win cause he will be the guy that has trained more and has a stronger will. Maybe the most talented wont win but the best one will. Plus,theres thoughs weird scenarios where guys trip and fall and hit their head and their really allready out before the fight.Anything can happen in areal fight,thats what martial arts are supposed to prepare you for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffin Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Bon do you believe in the chaos theory. That anyhting can happen, its true to say that there could be an olympic TKD practitioner just waiting to stick his heel in your face. I've been training for nigh on ?10 years in many arts and I have crosstrained yet I still believe there could be someone out there who may never have trained at all or in tkd or shotokan who could whoop my ass. Some people are just born hard as nails some more than others. Then theres the possibility that in a fight I slip or lose concentration. A knee/fist/heel/shin elbow can end the fight and even the best fighter can get suckerpunched. The superior man is modest in his speech, but excels in his actions.Confucius (551 BC - 479 BC)Crosstraining in bjj/silat/muaythai/jkd/JJJ/kickboxing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenguartist Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 this is great stuff dudes!!!please just keep on giving more of your beliefs and concepts, its great to read!!! thanx for the insight guys .:let honor guide your hand:."you won't be alive long enough to remember my name" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Just like a good painter had the innate talent to draw well at a young age, and with proper training this person becomes a great artist. Of course dedication, love of art and so on are absolutely necessary for success. Most great fighters were raised fighting, they usually comes from disfunctional homes or really bad areas of poverty. Of course there are many exceptions to this, but most Boxers and Pugilists were people of which I have described. Rich people don't need to fight to get what they want. My point is a good fighter were always fighters since they were young, and with the proper training become great fighters. So little Joey who loves ( write in MA of your choice ) is never going to be as good as John. John has 3 older brothers who beat on him all the time, and at school he had to fight too. He knows what it's like to get beat up. He has no fear of a fight, he is a fighter. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanjusko Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Tell me, does it sound idiotic to judge an artist's worthiness by judging the tools that he uses at his disposal? Because, I know of some great art that has used scrap found in a junkyard, and I know of some horrendous crap made from the finest of oils and brushes. It boils down to the individual fighter's dedication to his/her art. WTF Tkd can be very effective if you know how to use it properly, Jiu-jitsu or kickboxing can also be very effective. It just happens that TKD takes much more time to develop than the popular MA's of kickboxing and grappling. Will a white belt in jiu-jitsu beat a master at TKD? Doesn't the white belt have more experience in the effective art than the TKD master? Anyone able to argue this has my full attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJS Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Ultimatly it comes down to the person. A stlye can only give you the tools. it just so happens that some stlyes deliver them more effectivly. Look at it like racing. when two people race, the one with the slower car still has a chance to win if he is a better driver than the person in the faster car. However if someone of his same skill level was sriving the other car he would surely loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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