Scruples.

[MasterPain]

So my question to the forum is this. Not counting self defense situations, to want extent would a person have to wrong you before you would consider bringing upon that person serious violence with malicious intent.

That's what the courts are for, imho, and I wouldn't take the law in my hands.

99.999% of the time, I agree with this statement.

[vantheman]

So my question to the forum is this. Not counting self defense situations, to want extent would a person have to wrong you before you would consider bringing upon that person serious violence with malicious intent.

That's what the courts are for, imho, and I wouldn't take the law in my hands.

99.999% of the time, I agree with this statement.

I would also have to agree.

VTM

[Shizentai]

I am in favor of (lawfully) defending justice as well as embracing forgiveness. Basically, I am not interested in "getting even" so much as I am interested in making sure that whomever has harmed me will never do the same thing to me or anyone else ever again.

For instance, some years ago a former supervisor of mine spilled a highly concentrated dangerous chemical on me while I was recording data in a notebook. I was rushed to the hospital shortly after and was bandaged up with skin peeling off again and again for three weeks. Since that day, I have been suffering with a fairly messed-up immune system. Every eight to twelve weeks I form a new allergy to something. Now I have to be careful of what clothes I wear, what foods I eat, I have to carry an epi-pin everywhere, and inhaler too. I usually have some sort of allergic reaction going on at any given point in time, and am always taking medicine to stifle it.

At first it kind of was hell. At first all I could think about was getting revenge, and how unfair it was. Bun once I got the cost of all of my medical needs taken care of by my workplace and it was time to consider lawsuits for pain and suffering... I just couldn't do it. My boss has a young daughter who is a terrific kid, and a really nice spouce, both of which would be put in a really bad quality of life should I decide to do what by all means was withing the legal extent of the law. Furthermore, my boss came to me so many times saying sorry about the accident. I could tell that it was genuine.

So I did nothing. After all, there is nothing that can fix this. There is nothing that can go back in time and change what happened. Why should that little girl have to suffer because of my pain?

I did quit. I also came back to check that new safety procedures had been put in place to prevent that sort of situation from happening again.

Many people may call me a fool, but I would really like to suggest that when you feel a desire for revenge, you not forget about assessing how your actions will affect ALL others involved, including yourself in the long run. I think that it is good to stand up for one's safety and others as well. However, As terrible as we may be to one another at times, we are all human. Often enacting revenge leaves you with more unwanted enemies than it does leave you with a feeling of satisfaction.

[Groinstrike]

Revenge for a honest mistake or accident, no. Revenge for purposfully taking your livelyhood, family, loved ones for their own personall gain or because they are an evil person, maybe.

Im not saying that revenge is a good thing, "When you go looking for revenge, don't forget to dig two graves" and all that stuff. Yes i agree with Sensei8 and Masterpain that 99.999 percent of the time you should abide by the law and let our legal system carry on the way it is designed. But, what if that person is wrongfully acquitted???

Can anyone tell i rooted for the Sith????

[Liver Punch]

Revenge, at least the brand that I would employ, is wrong. However, I'm OK with doing something wrong in a number of circumstances. If you kill or rape a member of my family, I'd gladly dig two graves before placing you in one. I'm a big believer in spite, and though I sometimes forget, I rarely forgive. If the courts frowned upon my particular brand of justice in the above situations...so be it.

[yamesu]

Some interesting views on this topic.

I must say, I agree with the 99% viewpoint. There is not much that actually makes me angry - one exeption, threatening or hurting my loved ones. It just seems to grind my gears.

Im not one for revenge, and have not really ever done something to someone out of vengance, but could see why and how it could happen.

[sensei8]

Revenge...NO!! That's not the martial arts, imho.

Defending my wife/kids, my relatives, friends, those that need it, and myself AT THAT MOMENT...YES, without any reservation and at any degree to achieve survival.

[JusticeZero]

Forgiveness isn't for THEM. It's for you because you are stuck in an egoistic hatefest that's just hurting you more.

[Groinstrike]

Revenge, at least the brand that I would employ, is wrong. However, I'm OK with doing something wrong in a number of circumstances. If you kill or rape a member of my family, I'd gladly dig two graves before placing you in one. I'm a big believer in spite, and though I sometimes forget, I rarely forgive. If the courts frowned upon my particular brand of justice in the above situations...so be it.

The scorched earth policy is the last refuge of the beaten man, If im going to hell, i ain't going alone.

I wonder how many people would have a different opinion if I said, that you would "get away" with your act of vengeance???

[MasterPain]

Revenge, at least the brand that I would employ, is wrong. However, I'm OK with doing something wrong in a number of circumstances. If you kill or rape a member of my family, I'd gladly dig two graves before placing you in one. I'm a big believer in spite, and though I sometimes forget, I rarely forgive. If the courts frowned upon my particular brand of justice in the above situations...so be it.

The scorched earth policy is the last refuge of the beaten man, If im going to hell, i ain't going alone.

I wonder how many people would have a different opinion if I said, that you would "get away" with your act of vengeance???

I'm guessing none, as those who have answered have cited principles as reason.