Sainthood Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 A teacher should be a decent fighter but that isn't the only thing that is important when trying to find a good teacher/dojo.
yamesu Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Did you see that TUF fighter (UFC reality show) where Rampage Jackson was the coach?He would teach nothing to his camp, he would bully one of the students (calling him names) and his corner advice in fights was horrible ("don't let him hit you!", "hit him!").I'd rather never be taught by Rampage... and Rampage is a GREAT fighter... but I'd rather have a less good fighter being my teacher.Great fighters don't always make good teachers. Teaching and coaching is hard to do, and I think an important aspect of effective coaching/teaching is being able to.adapt and adjust how you teach.But look at someone like Bill Wallace. Good fighter, and I've heard nothing but good things about his seminars. Some can do it, others not so well.Agreed Double agreed "We did not inherit this earth from our parents. We are borrowing it from our children."
evergrey Posted February 20, 2012 Author Posted February 20, 2012 Heh well certainly it's not the only thing! Of course they would need to be a good teacher, and a good person. http://kyokushinchick.blogspot.com/"If you can fatally judo-chop a bull, you can sit however you want." -MasterPain, on why Mas Oyama had Kyokushin karateka sit in seiza with their clenched fists on their thighs.
sensei8 Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Heh well certainly it's not the only thing! Of course they would need to be a good teacher, and a good person.Not every black belt can teach, even though they might be a great fighter. The transition from the competitive ring onto the dojo/school floor as the instructor is a extremely thin line, imho. **Proof is on the floor!!!
evergrey Posted February 20, 2012 Author Posted February 20, 2012 OSU, for me, I have long term goals of teaching. I want to fight before I am a sensei... but I have been deeply honored by having been called upon to teach already! Teaching kata to white belts only, of course, given my low rank... but it remains a great honor. I have only ever seen brown belts and above teaching anything at my dojo. I think that my Shihan believes in me and my goals, which means so very much. I hope to become a good teacher... and a good fighter! OSU! http://kyokushinchick.blogspot.com/"If you can fatally judo-chop a bull, you can sit however you want." -MasterPain, on why Mas Oyama had Kyokushin karateka sit in seiza with their clenched fists on their thighs.
Jissen Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 That's like saying Mike Tyson shouldn't be able to beat his coach in boxing.There are doers, and there are teachers. Rarely do you get both in the same person. Seek not to follow in the footsteps of the old masters, rather, seek what they sought
shimizu Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 I guess it would help as then the students would be able to learn of the teacher when they watch the sensei/teacher, for example, spar a higher a sempei/other yudansha. But, theoretically - no OSS! Shimizu Yuuhiro Shodan Shukokai Karate-DoYoon Kwan Ilgop Kup ITF Tae Kwon-Do
MasterPain Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Something to consider here, I have no natural athletic ability to speak of. My reflexes are slow, I don't take my conditioning seriously enough, I have short stubby legs that can't triangle choke anyone who is out of junior high school. But I do have a fair amount of knowledge to offer. Give me a beginner with a good attitude and good athletic talent, and they'll be kicking my butt by the time they know half what I do. My fists bleed death. -Akuma
Open minded Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 A instructor can still be a good fighter even though he has never been in a fight You are fighting in everyday live mentally, physicle and spirituallyAlong the instructor is competant on what he is doing that is good enough for meEven if the person didn't have a belt to his name as a belt is only a grading not a magicle power so along he's competant that is the key Martial Arts
shadowspawn Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 Great question, My answer would be not necissarily. From personal experience, a good number of the black belts that have come out of Bujin Bugei Jutsu have tested there skills in some sort of sporting arena. That includes MMA, IBJJF tournaments, Full contact karate tournaments etc. They have all been met with a good deal of success and many trophies and medals to go along with it. This is not the purpose of our art however, I have known great martial artists and great teachers of martial arts that have never fought in a cage, or grappled in a tournament. These instructors are still capable of delivering information in a way that their students reveive the most benefit from their instruction.These men have never "competed" but i have sparred with them and it is not a pleasent experience. So no, one does not have to be an accomplished fighter to be a great martial artist or a great teacher.Pretty much this. Competition/sport martial arts are just a recreation of what a fight might be like but with a good deal of limitations as to what you can do. For example, you could be really good at setting up a triangle choke in jujitsu tournaments, but if you were to get into an actual self defense scenario and as you're setting it up, the guy takes a huge bite out of your inner thigh, you might not be prepared for such a situation due to the regulations in place while training the technique. There is absolutely no substitute for actual combat, but the closest you can get would probably to have a good teacher who understands the strengths and weaknesses of the techniques that they teach.
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