NewLevel Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Hey guys. I haven't been on here in a while but wanted thoughts on this.Is it okay to learn martial arts under someone who may be a great martial artist but may have a bad reputation or their values and moral are not up to par?This is something that sort of has bothered me lately. I was planning on training in another weapons art briefly but the instructor has had some court troubles in the past. Those in the community have stated his morals/values is questionable after the trouble he was in.I've talked to him personally and immediately he wanted to know my lineage, who my instructor is currently, and sent this huge e-mail asking me my past training,etc. It almost sounds like he is "sizing me up."He had some students approach me on a social networking site and it seems they are researching me! He has definitely told them things I've personally told him myself! It's really a confusing thing. My gut is telling me to stay away. My current instructor is a great family man, professor in college and an amazing person all in all. His teaching is great. He tells me to be very careful.Just wanted to see some views on this. Thank you! "In time of grave public crisis, one must have the courage to face a million and one opponents..." - Gichin Funakoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineGuy Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Never mind reputation and questionable things you've heard. That's downright creepy. Its one thing to ask you questions about training, but that sounds like borderline crazy ex behavior lol. I usually go with my gut. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterPain Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 My gut is telling me to stay away. For me, that's all there is to say on the subject. A huge part of what a person gets out of training is the personal interaction. If you don't like the guy, can't trust him to keep confidence...ect... I just can't imagine any instruction being worth dealing with that. My fists bleed death. -Akuma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei8 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Is it okay to learn martial arts under someone who may be a great martial artist but may have a bad reputation or their values and moral are not up to par?Imho, no, it's not okay to learn the martial arts from someone that you've described. Values that you hold dear are so important across the board. While skills are important for an instructor to have, the negative mentoring can run askew and possibly infest the student body as the student body tries to emulate the instructor...it does happen more than one might realize. Good Morals and good reputations should be paramount for any instructor of the martial arts, above all and any skill set. Ask yourself this...would you want your children to learn anything from someone with questionable values/morals, regardless the skill set of the instructor? Your answer just might be the answer to your question.Good luck, please keep us informed. **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterPain Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I absolutely refuse to teach people like this, I also don't care to learn from them. They are usually very ego-driven, bad personality traits travel in packs in most people who have them, and will hurt you when training. My fists bleed death. -Akuma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineGuy Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I absolutely refuse to teach people like this, I also don't care to learn from them. They are usually very ego-driven, bad personality traits travel in packs in most people who have them, and will hurt you when training.Exactly. We have a couple like that in this area. I'd rather train on my own than deal with their egos. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evergrey Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Danger Will Robinsson, DANGER! *waves arms around* http://kyokushinchick.blogspot.com/"If you can fatally judo-chop a bull, you can sit however you want." -MasterPain, on why Mas Oyama had Kyokushin karateka sit in seiza with their clenched fists on their thighs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobbersky Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I would consider what it is you're getting involved in, it could be just aq fad, or it could be similar to the Dojo, I'll upload the URL later (not mastered the art of adding URL's via blackberry yet!) or it could some underground Organisation similar to the KKK or other "Religious" or "Racially motivated" group!If your instinct is saying "NO" then maybe just maybe you need to listen to it!!! "Challenge is a Dragon with a Gift in its mouth....Tame the Dragon and the Gift is Yours....." Noela Evans (author) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evergrey Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Yes, trust your gut. Always trust your gut! Don't tie your reputation, your luck, or your safety in with someone who is shady, or who you don't have a good feeling about. http://kyokushinchick.blogspot.com/"If you can fatally judo-chop a bull, you can sit however you want." -MasterPain, on why Mas Oyama had Kyokushin karateka sit in seiza with their clenched fists on their thighs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobbersky Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) I would consider what it is you're getting involved in, it could be just aq fad, or it could be similar to the Dojo, I'll upload the URL later (not mastered the art of adding URL's via blackberry yet!) or it could some underground Organisation similar to the KKK or other "Religious" or "Racially motivated" group!If your instinct is saying "NO" then maybe just maybe you need to listen to it!!!If you are easily upset DON'T watch the video!!!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsPmHZjK_ZA&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Dhomelees%2Bguy%2Bbeaten%2Bkarate%26oq%3Dhomelees%2Bguy%2Bbeaten%2Bkarate%26aq%3Df%26aqi%3D%26aql%3D%26gs_sm%3De%26gs_upl%3D3732261l3766287l0l3767220l56l34l1l17l2l4l281l1974l3.9.2l16l0 Edited January 29, 2012 by Dobbersky "Challenge is a Dragon with a Gift in its mouth....Tame the Dragon and the Gift is Yours....." Noela Evans (author) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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