WolverineGuy Posted December 28, 2003 Posted December 28, 2003 Agreed. I have been in quite a few different MAs, and none have had bowing in any context other than respect to the instructor/master instructor. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon."
WolverineGuy Posted December 28, 2003 Posted December 28, 2003 Agreed. I have been in quite a few different MAs, and none have had bowing in any context other than respect to the instructor/master instructor. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon."
Treebranch Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 We bow to each other both before and after class, out of respect for each other. We are thanking each other for the lessons. You can learn something from anyone. I like a level of respect in class. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
Drunken Monkey Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 but there are always those who can't see beyond their little world where bowing=worship. anyway, we don't bow. we have the little 'ming' hand symbol that we do. it's a mark of respect for those in the past who gave their lives for freedom (also known as the first triads in china... ) post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
KWN Posted January 1, 2004 Posted January 1, 2004 I think you all misunderstood what I meant. When one bows to a photograph I'm sure you are not actually "worshiping" it, but it is a little extreme from my pont of veiw. I think you should FEEL respect for the person instead of trying to show it when they arn't there. But hey, I shouldn't sweat the little things, right?
pvwingchun Posted January 2, 2004 Posted January 2, 2004 KWN Shouldn't people be allowed to defend themselves? Or shouldn't they be allowed to explore something from another culture that may be of interest to them? People who have problems with Martial Artists because they see it as non -Christian are really doing themselves an injustice and have a closed minded view of it. There are other things that the MA's are good for. What about doing it for the sake of your health? Tai Chi is a fantastic form of exercise as are most of the MA's why not do it for that reason? I really do not understand this whole phenomenon. I know several people who consider themselves devout Christians and have no problem training, but then I do know a few who have a problem with some of the things we do. Generally the latter are the ones who want to change the way we do things to fit their view of reality (Christianity). Bowing is one of those things. It is just that, a bow, a show of respect to the instructors and the masters who came before you and traveled along the same path on the journey. Wing Chun Kuen Alliancehttps://www.wing-chun.us
MAD Posted January 2, 2004 Posted January 2, 2004 People should be able to defend themselves but KWN never said anything about that. Do you even know what the martial in MA stands for? It means "war like" or "milatary". Plus, I would have no problem with the MA if it didn't have the New Age point of veiw.
gheinisch Posted January 2, 2004 Posted January 2, 2004 I'm sorry but I just don't get the "New Age point of view" angle on Martial Arts. I guess I'm just missing it in class. Does anyone here get into the New Age stuff in class? "If your hand goes forth withhold your temper""If your temper goes forth withold your hand"-Gichin Funakoshi
Drunken Monkey Posted January 2, 2004 Posted January 2, 2004 but it is still a cultural thing. when you meet someone (in a formal capacity) in japan, you bow. it is custom. it is like the shaking of hands. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
pvwingchun Posted January 2, 2004 Posted January 2, 2004 Never heard of New Age anything Martial Arts around here nor have I heard of putting New Age philosophies into Martial Arts ever at least in the more Traditonal Arts. Maybe some out there are taking the more modern versions of the arts and adding those philosophies. I think what some mistake as New Age philosophies are actually Martial Art philosophies many times. MAD, I was asking a question about defending one's self, ease up there tiger. And yes I know what Martial Arts mean and what they are but it is so much more than just the words you have used to explain it. You say you would have no problem with a MA if there was no New Age component, so would you be against going out and trying a traditional art to learn more about it? People who don't understand something frequently fear it or worse yet they inject things into it to fit there view of what they believe it is to demonize it. Do people ask these questions of boxing it is a Martial Art????????? If not why not??????? Wing Chun Kuen Alliancehttps://www.wing-chun.us
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