traffic142 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Question?I do not have any instructors near by but have been looking at You Tube at this kata. Several black belts have a similar kata's posted ( from Holland, Russia, USA, Canada, etc). So the pattern is similiar, then I stumbled upon a version that an okinawan master performed in 2009. He left out parts ( I have heard they do this in public performances for a reason). The main question is in the kata, it shows a up flip of the tonfa, followed by a down flip and cross swing several times in the kata. The Okinawan Master Nakamori-san does his a swinging flip up with both tonfa at the same time (two revolutions)- see also karate by jesse on you tube. Similiar to the one hand at a time in Matsu higa no tonfa.My question is which to follow? Nakamori san is harder to do, so is that why some modified it?Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks Ni Dan in Isshinryu, current training in Tarboro NC
Kodakmint Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Do the harder one, it will show you have initiative.
sensei8 Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Question?I do not have any instructors near by but have been looking at You Tube at this kata. Several black belts have a similar kata's posted ( from Holland, Russia, USA, Canada, etc). So the pattern is similiar, then I stumbled upon a version that an okinawan master performed in 2009. He left out parts ( I have heard they do this in public performances for a reason). The main question is in the kata, it shows a up flip of the tonfa, followed by a down flip and cross swing several times in the kata. The Okinawan Master Nakamori-san does his a swinging flip up with both tonfa at the same time (two revolutions)- see also karate by jesse on you tube. Similiar to the one hand at a time in Matsu higa no tonfa.My question is which to follow? Nakamori san is harder to do, so is that why some modified it?Can anyone shed some light on this? ThanksI believe that that's the exact reason as to why some modified it. I also believe that they modified it to attach their styles name and brand label to it.Any change hopefully were effective across the board and not just empty movements for the sake of being different from Nakamori Sensei. I've yet to see any modification come close to the crispness and effectiveness across the board to Kakamori Sensei. Hense, Nakamori Sensei's version is quite difficult...rhythm and the like are important. **Proof is on the floor!!!
sensei8 Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Do the harder one, it will show you have initiative.I wholeheartedly agree here!! You'll be fine!! Work it in small segments to get all of its important elements done right.Hang in there!! **Proof is on the floor!!!
traffic142 Posted March 16, 2012 Author Posted March 16, 2012 Did Nakimori Sensie leave any steps out or techniques? Again I noticed more in other forms of that kata, more blocks, punches, etc.Thanks Ni Dan in Isshinryu, current training in Tarboro NC
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