please respond,need help

[judobrah]

yeah i have to say that i kinda like shito,but its like "god dammit teacher stop kicking my damm legs just because i didnt do a finger strike imagining a real person" i just dont know the teacher is ok but then there is like 11 years old green belts that cant even trow a kick above the waist,and besides that i dont think i can spare with a 10 year old girl....., i just sometimes think like why am i,parents,my parents even wasting money on this

[Cayuga Karate]

i didnt do a finger strike imagining a real person

I imagine you might be talking about the nukite that appears in both Pinan Shodan and Sandan.

If your teacher really believes that these techniques can be done to the torso, then he just may be lacking in some basic common sense. I won't argue that it is impossible for a person, after perhaps a decade, maybe two, of intensive finger training, may be able to use a finger strike to the torso to neutralize a larger attacker. Maybe it can be.

But just because a movement could "theoretically" have some utility after a couple of decades of intensive training, doesn't make a movement that makes any sense for the vast karate community that practices it.

Against a larger aggressive attacker, the notion that a karate teacher would train his students to hit the person in the abdomen with their fingers is foolish. There is no polite way of saying it.

That doesn't make the technique in the kata foolish. The kata survived, because they likely were useful. But the notion that the "use" of the movement is a finger strike to the abdomen is McDojo karate.

That being said, you claimed you had issues in remembering kata. Is Pinan Shodan one of the kata you are challenged in retaining?

-Cayuga Karate

[deckerdude]

Ooh dear! ''Tips to memorise ''that crap ''!! I dont particularly like 'Kumite', but i do it because in Karate you cannot have Karate without Kumite. Same as the Katas. Karate cannot exist without the Katas. Kumite and Katas are essential in the art of Karate. I absolutely LOVE the Katas in Karate, and will eventually specialise in them, (hopefully!), but i realise that i have to do the Kumite as well.

[Zaine]

If your teacher really believes that these techniques can be done to the torso, then he just may be lacking in some basic common sense. I won't argue that it is impossible for a person, after perhaps a decade, maybe two, of intensive finger training, may be able to use a finger strike to the torso to neutralize a larger attacker. Maybe it can be.

But just because a movement could "theoretically" have some utility after a couple of decades of intensive training, doesn't make a movement that makes any sense for the vast karate community that practices it.

I couldn't disagree with you more. The Pinan Shodan that I do has the finger tip strike to the torso, and it doesn't take a decade or two to condition your fingers to withstand a strike like that. With the Pinan, the strike is to the diaphragm, so as to knock the wind out of the opponent. A fingertip strike would also be useful for getting in between the ribs, striking a pressure point or doing a cranes beak to the sternum. It isn't just theoretical, it's practical or it wouldn't be in a kata that has been around for quite a long time.

Against a larger aggressive attacker, the notion that a karate teacher would train his students to hit the person in the abdomen with their fingers is foolish. There is no polite way of saying it.

Regardless of your intentions with the above line, you seem to be assuming that a teacher who teaches this is only equipping his students with this technique for an attack to the torso. When I learned Pinan Shodan it was made very clear that this was a technique that required finger strengthening exercises. Our teachers are always going to equip us with what we need to defend ourselves, and always push us to make sure our bodies are able to handle the techniques that we do. To say that it is foolish for a teacher to teach a student a technique is not only silly, but incredibly closed minded.

[judobrah]

Ooh dear! ''Tips to memorise ''that crap ''!!yeah me dont do kumite or even light sparring,it seems some of the moves "can kill someone"not sure about that but meh,no mcdojo trough,its like 80% is kata 10% is kicks in the air and 10% is aplications without resistance,the thing is the instructor is legit but i think all the 11 are holding him back,btw no more schools exept aikido and muay thai,not really my thing and the aikido is mcdojo

[Zaine]

but i think all the 11 are holding him back.

What's your rank?

[judobrah]

but i think all the 11 are holding him back.

What's your rank?

white lol,my teacher refuses to pass me to yellow belt because i dont know the katas,but then again there is this kid that is a orange belt and has been doing karate for 3 years,but before you go bananas i am only disliking this because i am used to a contact enviroment(in judo my teacher sparred with me all the time,it was rough,even some kids gave up because there

[judobrah]

was "to much contact",and its like i am doing high kicks,hook kicks(i did some muay thai and some things here and there,including lifting for 2.5 years) but there are KIDS that are green belts but spent the entire class yelling at the teacher and punching eahchoter(sorry for grammar) that cant trow a damm front kick,btw there is this girl that is a yellow belt and has been there for 2 months,i am on month 5

[judobrah]

the girl is 12 i think,but they say that the kids get those belts "because they are just kids,so they standarts are lower,but the older ones (teens in my case) have to work a lot harder(not a problem),obviously this just means the soccer moms will problably take their soons out of karate if they dont get their belts

[JusticeZero]

You say there are three schools in your area. How large an area is it, and how did you search, and for how long?

I am always stumbling across martial art schools that I didn't see on previous searches. Always have. A big part of it is just a matter of taking varied routes to everywhere, keeping your eyes on the scenery, looking at every bulletin board you come across. Which are all things you should get in the habit of doing anyways, because it will help you be safer and richer.