Karate Bunkai

[Dobbersky]

You'll have to excuse me if I find no respect for the people who claim that there way is the "true way" to do things. There are many ways to do things, it's one of the things that I love about martial arts. Luckily for us, for every stubborn master there is an open-minded one.

Solid post

[sojobo]

You'll have to excuse me if I find no respect for the people who claim that there way is the "true way" to do things. There are many ways to do things, it's one of the things that I love about martial arts. Luckily for us, for every stubborn master there is an open-minded one.

Maybe the master is only being fatherly rather than stubborn - after all, sensei means the one who has been before.

A true sensei guides rather than dictates.

But, sometimes a student needs to be patient. Traditional martial systems are only learnt in their completion, not bit by bit – otherwise you may as well educate yourself from the web.

You have to trust your instructor - he/she probably understands the long game better than you (a little bit of knowledge being a dangerous thing and all that).

Sojobo

[Zaine]

But, sometimes a student needs to be patient. Traditional martial systems are only learnt in their completion, not bit by bit – otherwise you may as well educate yourself from the web.

You have to trust your instructor - he/she probably understands the long game better than you (a little bit of knowledge being a dangerous thing and all that).

Sojobo

I am patient, and the style of Shorin Ryu I got to learn was traditional, and I fell in love with traditional karate through him and he was never hesitant to tell us that the way he taught us a use for a technique was just one way, and that there was a plethora of other ways that were just as effective, but this was the way we did it.

I have trusted whole heartily every instructor that I have had, because I chose the right ones. Every single one had the trust in me to confide where every kata was going and where every technique fit. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing, but in my opinion lack of it has the potential to be infinitely worse.

[sojobo]

A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing, but in my opinion lack of it has the potential to be infinitely worse.

I guess time will tell

Sojobo

[Zaine]

Lol indeed it will.

[ps1]

I'm sorry, I suppose that I was a bit vague. I've done plently of google searches both in Enlglish and Japanese servers, and have found quite a few interesting things. I was just hoping that the users here might have some little gems that I may have overlooked.

It may help to note that I am particularly interested in the possible grappling disengagements contained within many of the kata, particularly naihanchi/tekki.

It's not based on karate kata, rather TKD forms, but here's a book that may be of great use.

http://www.amazon.com/Taekwondo-Grappling-Techniques-Competitive-Martial/dp/0804840067/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325201755&sr=8-1

In it, a form is shown and then various grappling options are shown for that movement.

In all honesty, I feel like the author is forcing something fit where it really does not. But that's another discussion. You can translate some of the movements and see where they overlap into the various kata you've mentioned. This will give you options for grappling.

[unknownstyle]

Naihanchi is not based on tae kwan do. Tkd is based on karate and the naihanchi kata come Fukien White Crane Kung fu

[ps1]

Naihanchi is not based on tae kwan do. Tkd is based on karate and the naihanchi kata come Fukien White Crane Kung fu

Which is why I pointed out that the book is not based on Karate Kata. No one said it was based on TKD forms. What I'm saying is that the similarities in movements between various arts can be interpreted the same in regards to grappling.

For example: Both TKD and Shotokan have the same movements of gedan barrai (down defense). However, the movement can be interpreted in many different ways. There can be overlap in the interpretation when it comes to making it a grappling movement rather than something coming from the free movement phase of combat.

These same similarities can be noticed and, in that regard, the book could be very useful.

[Dobbersky]

Naihanchi is not based on tae kwan do. Tkd is based on karate and the naihanchi kata come Fukien White Crane Kung fu

Which is why I pointed out that the book is not based on Karate Kata. No one said it was based on TKD forms. What I'm saying is that the similarities in movements between various arts can be interpreted the same in regards to grappling.

For example: Both TKD and Shotokan have the same movements of gedan barrai (down defense). However, the movement can be interpreted in many different ways. There can be overlap in the interpretation when it comes to making it a grappling movement rather than something coming from the free movement phase of combat.

These same similarities can be noticed and, in that regard, the book could be very useful.

Naihanchi kata is Naihanchi kata no matter what style is practicing it, the same as Pinan Kata is practice by many styles including the Korean styles.

As the Form is a multi-national kata if someone from a different style to me regardless of origin gives me a valid description as to what a specific technique with the kata I practice, I'll acknowledge and accept it and see if it can be worked into the kata period

OSU

[xo-karate]

I think we need to study kata's more. I have a wado ryu background and wado ryu was started as a fighting + grappling style. Kata is a way to practise your techniques.

For me this means that I should practise my techniques to improve my fighting. With out understanding how a kata improves your skills, it's difficult and with out understanding what is your fighting - skills you do want to improve - it's useless.

So I am saying that everyone should study a kata and work out what are the learning goals of that kata and make the moves so that you can use it in your "game". Game might be traditional impact karate, competition karate, selfdefence or MMA sparring.

I don't like ballet as a form of martial arts, but it can be very good for physical exercises for martial arts. I used to do kata's as a form of ballet - stylish moves with tweaking a wrist or a finger position. Maybe compined with some kihon techniques.

To make make kata more interesting I will make my own kata's:-)