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I don't consider wrist breaks to be fancy, they're just a part of standing grappling.

But no, I would not use a spin kick in self defense.

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I don't consider wrist breaks to be fancy, they're just a part of standing grappling.

But no, I would not use a spin kick in self defense.

how about if you already had punched him and he was rocked?
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I don't consider wrist breaks to be fancy, they're just a part of standing grappling.

But no, I would not use a spin kick in self defense.

how about if you already had punched him and he was rocked?

This is the best time to apply a joint manipulation. Tuite is predicated with a stunning motion to actually allow the movement to be successfully applied.

On the general topic, I try to never say never. It is HIGHLY doubtful I'd ever do any high risk maneuver such as a spinning kick, ect. in a sd situation. Particularly in my situation since I don't train those tactics enough because I don't see them as a viable response option for me in a realistic sd scenario.

Bear in mind, what is fancy for one individual might be routine for another. Now, this still does not mean that the tactic is a good tool for sd; however, if an individual is comfortable with even a high risk tactic he or she has a much higher likelihood of actually pulling it off than someone who has a low level of comfort with it.

Still, I would lean towards the idea of no. For me, this also means (as I hint at above) I won't spend alot of time training that tactic.

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Never say never but I can't imagen using a spinning kick for self-defense. I was in a situation years ago. I used a jab, front kick, wrist lock and o soto gari (a basic throw.) Long story on the situation but it involed a drunk and who knows what else guy, going up a full flight of stairs and several attempts to re-enter the building. It sucked. It was basics that got me through.

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Only ever used basic "short" techniques and basic throws in self defence situations. I have never seen an opportunity to use exotic techniques ever. Except in a Jean Claude Van Dame Movie!!!

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I agree that wrist locks and throws aren't "flashy" and I would use them in a self defense situation. As far as spinning techniques, the only time I would ever use a spinning technique in a self defense situation would be if I happened to already be spinning--like if I was breaking free of a grab from behind, for example. If I was in front of them already there is absolutely no reason for me to turn my back on them to kick them.

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I think tallgeese is on the money with "never say never" and it depends on what you're comfortable with. A switch spinning back kick would be considered flashy by most but we use them tons in my school (one of my instructor's fav techniques) and train them a lot inc. in our self defense work so personally I would consider one if the situation called for it.

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