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Hello all to start off im a huge fan of tae kwon do I think its a great art to learn and I love the kicks.... however I am from a muay thai backround and interested in putting new kicks to my arsenal.......Ive been doing tkd now for a few months and seem to be picking it up fast..... all in all what do you think is the most effective and or underused strikes from tkd to use in muay thai...... Ive asked around and a lot say the sidekick and id have to agree.... but you also never see kicks with the instep..... thoughts?

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Side kick and back kick are some of the most powerful and versatile kicks.. Instep roundhouses will give you a bit more reach than Muay Thai shin roundhouses. But the instep is weaker and you'll have to slowly build up the conditioning so you don't break your foot. Spinning hook kicks are also good if you can pull them off but you'll have to practice getting the rotation fast.

When you talk about your arsenal, what do you mean? you mean for self defense or MMA or what? If its for competition in one or the other, you'll have to make sure the techniques you import are ok within the rules. From what I've seen from people cross training in Muay Thai and bringing it to TKD, the techniques are mostly ok within out competition rules set (excluding the elbows and knees) but I don't know if the opposite it true.

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The side kick and back kick will be very useful in Muay Thai because most Muay Thai practitioners are not used to defending against strong linear kicks. You can see an example of this hear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGC6pDRxm4I

The spinning hook kick is also very useful as a counter attack against a round kick to the open side.

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There is a fellow with a youtube channel I've checked out; calls himself Kwonkicker; and he is a TKD guy who has adapted his training and fought some Muay Thai. You might check out some of his stuff for some ideas.

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Master Sken From the UK is a Muay Thai Grand Master and Also a Black Belt int Tae Kwon Do, In his style of Muay Thai some of the TKD techniques do filter through!!!

Stances are very different though between the 2 arts. Enjoy both though, OSU!!!

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The Tae Kwon Do kicks that have been mentioned so far, side kicks, back kicks and spinning round kicks are all effective kicks.

They don't need to be adapted from Tae Kwon Do to work in Muay Thai because they're all Muay Thai kicks already. They just don't get used very often.

A very famous fighter from the 1980's called Samart Payakaroon often used the side kick (teep kang) very effectively.

There's also an old style technique called 'kwang liaw lang' or 'deer looks back' which uses a side kick or a back kick as a counter attack after your opponent had dodged your round kick.

A spinning round kick is known as 'jorakay fad hang' or 'crocodile thrashes its tail'. Again, this can be used as a follow-on technique if your opponent dodges your round kick.

If you care to look deep enough there isn't much lacking in Muay Thai.

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The Tae Kwon Do kicks that have been mentioned so far, side kicks, back kicks and spinning round kicks are all effective kicks.

They don't need to be adapted from Tae Kwon Do to work in Muay Thai because they're all Muay Thai kicks already. They just don't get used very often.

A very famous fighter from the 1980's called Samart Payakaroon often used the side kick (teep kang) very effectively.

There's also an old style technique called 'kwang liaw lang' or 'deer looks back' which uses a side kick or a back kick as a counter attack after your opponent had dodged your round kick.

A spinning round kick is known as 'jorakay fad hang' or 'crocodile thrashes its tail'. Again, this can be used as a follow-on technique if your opponent dodges your round kick.

If you care to look deep enough there isn't much lacking in Muay Thai.

Precisely. Muay Thai has all the staple kicks that known to most kicking arts...front, round, side, back, spinning back/wheel, even the handstand kicks!

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Nor will you I think. If I remember correctly Muay Thai is very much a "no wasted movement" martial arts. They would probably as something like "Why go on your hands to kick their heads when I can do that right side up?"

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