Ueshirokarate Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 Ok, I am biased as this is the same style I study. But surely anyone with an Okinawan Karate background should enjoy the following two short films on the front page of this website:http://shorin-ryu.com/Ota Sensei is not affiliated with the school/system I am involved with, but we do share Nagamine as our founder and our katas, philosophy and overall training is pretty much the same. Matsubayashi RyuCMMACC (Certified Mixed Martial Arts Conditioning Coach)
Dobbersky Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 I love Okinawan Karate, it seems to encompass "real" techniques and it more akin to my style of Ashihara than mine is akin to Japanese styles of Karate.Okinawan Karate still practices full contact sparring too.Ueshiro-san when you studied Judo, did you ever study the Judo Kata and how do you feel they relate to Okinawan Karate kata, if we should open another thread on this that would be good to "Challenge is a Dragon with a Gift in its mouth....Tame the Dragon and the Gift is Yours....." Noela Evans (author)
Ueshirokarate Posted September 11, 2011 Author Posted September 11, 2011 I love Okinawan Karate, it seems to encompass "real" techniques and it more akin to my style of Ashihara than mine is akin to Japanese styles of Karate.Okinawan Karate still practices full contact sparring too.Ueshiro-san when you studied Judo, did you ever study the Judo Kata and how do you feel they relate to Okinawan Karate kata, if we should open another thread on this that would be good toSurely there is someone on here who holds rank in judo and some form of Suri-te based Okinawan Karate that is better able to discuss this. I agree, it would be most interesting to discuss that topic. It is a bit of a political topic in my system though, as there are those of much higher rank than I who don't believe grabbing and throws are part of our style (I greatly beg to differ with that) and those that say years ago they practiced throws and ground work all the time. Interestingly, the founder of Matsubayashi (Shosin Nagamine) also held dan rank in judo. When you are back on computer, let's start a thread to discuss this and the work of Patrick McCarthy, tegumi, etc. Matsubayashi RyuCMMACC (Certified Mixed Martial Arts Conditioning Coach)
sojobo Posted September 11, 2011 Posted September 11, 2011 I did, thank you.There are some major wrongs in them (not least the translation of Kara) but then again solid in most respects as far as I could see.I particularly liked how the group in the second vid got up from seiza.Don't get me wrong, I do that in my kids class to demonstate correct weight distribution wilst kneeling, but it isn't in our typical reigi.Sojobo I know violence isn't the answer... I got it wrong on purpose!!!http://www.karatedo.co.jp/wado/w_eng/e_index.htm
Ueshirokarate Posted September 11, 2011 Author Posted September 11, 2011 I did, thank you.There are some major wrongs in them (not least the translation of Kara) but then again solid in most respects as far as I could see.I particularly liked how the group in the second vid got up from seiza.Don't get me wrong, I do that in my kids class to demonstate correct weight distribution wilst kneeling, but it isn't in our typical reigi.SojoboI don't know, Ota Sensei is Okinawan born and raised and trained under some of the top Okinawan karate masters. I don't think he made any mistakes within the video i.e. kara's translation. These are probably cultural and linguistic differences between Okinawa and mainland Japan. Japanese is not the native language of Okinwa. Matsubayashi RyuCMMACC (Certified Mixed Martial Arts Conditioning Coach)
sojobo Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I did, thank you.There are some major wrongs in them (not least the translation of Kara) but then again solid in most respects as far as I could see.I particularly liked how the group in the second vid got up from seiza.Don't get me wrong, I do that in my kids class to demonstate correct weight distribution wilst kneeling, but it isn't in our typical reigi.SojoboI don't know, Ota Sensei is Okinawan born and raised and trained under some of the top Okinawan karate masters. I don't think he made any mistakes within the video i.e. kara's translation. These are probably cultural and linguistic differences between Okinawa and mainland Japan. Japanese is not the native language of Okinwa.As I understand it the original character of Kara referred to China, but this was subsequently changed to "Empty".Empty in this respect pertains emptiness or purity of mind and body.The fact that the majority of Karate is done without weapons is not the reason it is called "empty hand".Sojobo I know violence isn't the answer... I got it wrong on purpose!!!http://www.karatedo.co.jp/wado/w_eng/e_index.htm
Ueshirokarate Posted September 12, 2011 Author Posted September 12, 2011 As I understand it the original character of Kara referred to China, but this was subsequently changed to "Empty".Empty in this respect pertains emptiness or purity of mind and body.The fact that the majority of Karate is done without weapons is not the reason it is called "empty hand".SojoboI highly doubt that Ota sensei would disagree with you, despite the film stating empty hand. I don't know how deeply into Zen he is, but there is a very strong Zen tradition in Matsubayashi:http://seinenkai.com/articles/art-heshiki.html Matsubayashi RyuCMMACC (Certified Mixed Martial Arts Conditioning Coach)
sojobo Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I highly doubt that Ota sensei would disagree with you, despite the film stating empty hand. There ya go then.Sojobo I know violence isn't the answer... I got it wrong on purpose!!!http://www.karatedo.co.jp/wado/w_eng/e_index.htm
martialartscounter Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Ok, I am biased as this is the same style I study. But surely anyone with an Okinawan Karate background should enjoy the following two short films on the front page of this website:http://shorin-ryu.com/Ota Sensei is not affiliated with the school/system I am involved with, but we do share Nagamine as our founder and our katas, philosophy and overall training is pretty much the same.Nice video on those website, i really like that karate man video Complete Martial Arts Equipment at http://martialartscounter.com
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