Unlocking Naihanchi Shodan

[honoluludesktop]

Yes, that is equally true. As society, and technology, change over time, kata bunkai changes. At one time, jujitsu kata had to address fighting in armor against opponents dressed in kind. This is no longer true, and accordingly judo kata has changed.

Edited August 3, 2011 by honoluludesktop

[Ueshirokarate]

Don't know about you guys, but I see Naihanchi at work here:

[sensei8]

To save the length of my post, and if I continue, it would be a long post, so let me just say this about the Niahanchi series....OH WHAT A RUSH!!

Perhaps when you come down, Bob, you can show me this kata. In TKD, we do a form that seems to have a "back to the wall" theme, called Po Eun. We do it at 2nd degree black, though. I do think Choi might have pulled some of Niahanchi for it.

Most likely he did. Also Yoo-Sin seems to copy some of it.

Imho, Po Eun is much more closer to Naifanchi than Yoo Sin.

[DWx]

To save the length of my post, and if I continue, it would be a long post, so let me just say this about the Niahanchi series....OH WHAT A RUSH!!

Perhaps when you come down, Bob, you can show me this kata. In TKD, we do a form that seems to have a "back to the wall" theme, called Po Eun. We do it at 2nd degree black, though. I do think Choi might have pulled some of Niahanchi for it.

Most likely he did. Also Yoo-Sin seems to copy some of it.

Imho, Po Eun is much more closer to Naifanchi than Yoo Sin.

oh yeah definitely, however, Yoo-sin is one of my current patterns and there are sections of Naihanchi that remind me of it

[sensei8]

To save the length of my post, and if I continue, it would be a long post, so let me just say this about the Niahanchi series....OH WHAT A RUSH!!

Perhaps when you come down, Bob, you can show me this kata. In TKD, we do a form that seems to have a "back to the wall" theme, called Po Eun. We do it at 2nd degree black, though. I do think Choi might have pulled some of Niahanchi for it.

Most likely he did. Also Yoo-Sin seems to copy some of it.

Imho, Po Eun is much more closer to Naifanchi than Yoo Sin.

oh yeah definitely, however, Yoo-sin is one of my current patterns and there are sections of Naihanchi that remind me of it

Yeah, I saw the spots were it resembled Naihanchi.

[Montana]

Don't know about you guys, but I see Naihanchi at work here:

I've been doing Nahachin since 1975 and I sure didn't see it in that demo. There was a sweep..yes, is that what you're referring to?

[Ueshirokarate]

Don't know about you guys, but I see Naihanchi at work here:

I've been doing Nahachin since 1975 and I sure didn't see it in that demo. There was a sweep..yes, is that what you're referring to?

Not just the sweep, but also the upper arm movements with that sweep. While we are both Shorin Ryu stylists, our katas may be slightly different.

[Montana]

Don't know about you guys, but I see Naihanchi at work here:

I've been doing Nahachin since 1975 and I sure didn't see it in that demo. There was a sweep..yes, is that what you're referring to?

Not just the sweep, but also the upper arm movements with that sweep. While we are both Shorin Ryu stylists, our katas may be slightly different.

Yeah, they must be because there are no punches like that in Nahachin 1-3...the older version anyway.

[Ueshirokarate]

Don't know about you guys, but I see Naihanchi at work here:

I've been doing Nahachin since 1975 and I sure didn't see it in that demo. There was a sweep..yes, is that what you're referring to?

Not just the sweep, but also the upper arm movements with that sweep. While we are both Shorin Ryu stylists, our katas may be slightly different.

Yeah, they must be because there are no punches like that in Nahachin 1-3...the older version anyway.

Its not the punches. It is the sweep and throw. If your kata is anything like the one we do, you should be able to see what I am talking about. Look at his hands as he sweeps. He is holding the uke in the same position you would be in the kata with your two fists in a ready position.

[sensei8]

Don't know about you guys, but I see Naihanchi at work here:

I've been doing Nahachin since 1975 and I sure didn't see it in that demo. There was a sweep..yes, is that what you're referring to?

Yeah...I'm with you on that observation; the sweeps were the only spots I saw any comparison at all.