Miick 11 Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 No escape will work once a competent 'bear' has it on . You have to start the escape before its on on or while its happening . Standing there and letting your partner get a full bear hug on and THEN trying to escape ..... fail (unless they are incompetent ) . About a month ago we where practicing rear bear hug escapes - bunkais from Niharchin Nidan and the end of Pinan Sandan and some others . yeah yeah , blah blah , we know all that , so then I decided to let him get it on and ' see what happens' .I was immediately lifted, he twisted around and threw me to the ground - a classic wrestling move . I thought , good , I am gonna hang on to him and as we land , I will use the momentum to twist, tuen him over and slip in for a scarf hold and submission . Nice plan , except it didnt come off , I landed on my side, with him on top of me and my left fist against my ribcage .... so the stacking order was ; hard ground , my fist, my rib, my body weight, his body weight, plus our momentum = 1 Costochondral separation. It didnt hurt - at the time , I was still contemplating burrowing into his side for the scarf hold , but that pop and glllutch/tear noise that just came outa my chest made me hesitate . We got up - Ah ! So thats what happens if you let them get the hold on before you move .
Zaine Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 That's an excellent point and I don't want to take away from the good, real self-defense discussion.However, I recently saw a video on this topic where the person suggesting just pooping yourself. It was a joke but, I mean, would you want to hold on to someone that had just pooped themselves? Seems pretty effective to me.Now that's an extreme circumstance! If you've got one loaded, that is....I believe it was Matsumura "Bushi" Sokon who said "an effective karateka always keeps one loaded." Martial arts training is 30% classroom training, 70% solo training.https://www.instagram.com/nordic_karate/
bushido_man96 Posted October 26, 2021 Posted October 26, 2021 That's an excellent point and I don't want to take away from the good, real self-defense discussion.However, I recently saw a video on this topic where the person suggesting just pooping yourself. It was a joke but, I mean, would you want to hold on to someone that had just pooped themselves? Seems pretty effective to me.Now that's an extreme circumstance! If you've got one loaded, that is....I believe it was Matsumura "Bushi" Sokon who said "an effective karateka always keeps one loaded." https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
Miick 11 Posted October 26, 2021 Posted October 26, 2021 That's an excellent point and I don't want to take away from the good, real self-defense discussion.However, I recently saw a video on this topic where the person suggesting just pooping yourself. It was a joke but, I mean, would you want to hold on to someone that had just pooped themselves? Seems pretty effective to me.Now that's an extreme circumstance! If you've got one loaded, that is....I believe it was Matsumura "Bushi" Sokon who said "an effective karateka always keeps one loaded."Ewwww .... saw a film of a match where during groundscrabble one guy started messing his pants, unbeknown to him , but known by the other , the other is madly trying to get away and escape , the pooper is thinking " I sure got this guy on the run , he seems scared of me ! "Oh yeah .... he was . I recommend wearing nappy under gi for tournament .
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