Anderson Silva's recent Karate

[brickshooter]

guys the kick came from his tkd background. Do a quick check and you will see he has also done tkd for many years. Thats wear the front snap kick came from. Not seagal or Thai. plain old tkd. If it had been a Thai front kick it would of been a push kick. In all my years i have never seen a Thai fighter trough a snap kick. Now i could b mistaken. So if i am wrong I can be corrected.

You're right, Thai front kicks are more of a thrust...now to your other reply...TKD is Karate, since General Choi Hong Hi developed it after learning Karate during his college years in Japan, which most Japanese college karate clubs are either Shotokan (Shorin-ryu) or Goju-ryu. Both of these styles use a front snap and a front thrust kick. So was it karate? Some may say it was Kung-fu, depends on how you look at history, but I'd look at it from a training standpoint at which I'd agree with you...easily a TKD front kick.

Yes, the front kick is a basic TKD kick. But TKD people don't use it. Nor do they cultivated the way the Karate people do. The front kick is the bread and butter of (and often the only kick taught in) Karate. It is Karate's signature kick.

BTW, they quickest way to give a Korean TKD instructor a heart attack is to suggest that TKD originated from Shotokan. That's a real taboo subject.

[bushido_man96]

Yes, the front kick is a basic TKD kick. But TKD people don't use it. Nor do they cultivated the way the Karate people do. The front kick is the bread and butter of (and often the only kick taught in) Karate. It is Karate's signature kick.

I try to use it in sparring, because I'm usually in better position for it than a side kick. The main reason the front kick fell out of favor is due mainly to Olympic style sparring, where the round kick is the most popular kick.

BTW, they quickest way to give a Korean TKD instructor a heart attack is to suggest that TKD originated from Shotokan. That's a real taboo subject.

A Korean instructor, you are probably right. As for me, I would just agree and move on. It is what it is, and it doesn't bother me one bit. I'm just glad TKD is around.

[brickshooter]

There'll always be that friction between a Korean and Japanese in lieu of their colonial past. Doesn't have to be Karate vs. TKD. A fist fight can result duing a discussion on the origins of Sushi, noodles, golf ... anything.

[bushido_man96]

There'll always be that friction between a Korean and Japanese in lieu of their colonial past. Doesn't have to be Karate vs. TKD. A fist fight can result duing a discussion on the origins of Sushi, noodles, golf ... anything.

Sad to think, but it probably won't ever change, either.

[Rockford Tyson]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this as I am obviously new to this forum, but I would like to just get people's opinions on Anderson Silva doing high front kicks to knock his more recent foes out (ex. Vitor Belfort). I believe he's been practicing Aikido (if I spelt that right) with Steven Seagal, so do you guys think Anderson is bringing attention to Karate and helping it or do you think people are ignoring it and accrediting his KOs to Muay Thai or just himself in general?

So basically, are Silva + Seagal doing good for Karate or is this kick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxXQxGvI-iY watch at 3:07 that's the replay) just not helping our community at all?

As far as I know many appreciate Machida so maybe Silva is helping now too.

That was not karate. That was a modified Muay Thai front push kick made higher to hit the jaw.

Maybe there is an identical kick in some karate style, but what Anderson did he did noit learn from karate. He is a black belt in BJJ, Judo and Taekwondo, but he never studied karate to my knowledge.

And no one can pull that off besides Anderson Silva. The guy has a lankiness and nimbleness that is uncanny. Greatest pure striker in MMA history, although the best ever was Fedor.

[MasterPain]

That was not karate. That was a modified Muay Thai front push kick made higher to hit the jaw.

Maybe there is an identical kick in some karate style, but what Anderson did he did noit learn from karate. He is a black belt in BJJ, Judo and Taekwondo, but he never studied karate to my knowledge.

Wouldn't that mean it was TKD, since there is no mention of him learning Muay Thai?

At any rate, it was a high front kick. Hardly exclusive to any style.

[Rockford Tyson]

That was not karate. That was a modified Muay Thai front push kick made higher to hit the jaw.

Maybe there is an identical kick in some karate style, but what Anderson did he did noit learn from karate. He is a black belt in BJJ, Judo and Taekwondo, but he never studied karate to my knowledge.

Wouldn't that mean it was TKD, since there is no mention of him learning Muay Thai?

At any rate, it was a high front kick. Hardly exclusive to any style.

"Muay Thai is what brought me to where I am today."

- Anderson Silva

Anderson trained Muay Thai in his native Curitiba, and then trained at the famous "ChuteBoxe" academy. He has the most fluid, technical and precise Muay Thai in MMA. He has stated numerous times that Taekwondo is too restrictive to be used as the striking base for MMA. The best striing bases for full-contact striking are Muay Thai and Western boxing. Boxing, although restrictive, is highly useful because humans can use their arms better than the legs, and the punch is the simplest and most biomechanically sound of all hand strikes.

And I already said that other martial arts probably have some very similar technique, but in the case of the UFC 126 kick from Anderson that was a modified MuayThai front push kick.

Anderson Silva will represent Brazil in Taekwondo at the next Olympics. He is a very high level black belt.