Shindokan Lineage

[sensei8]

After yesterdays KF LiveStream, and more specifically after my guest spot, which was a very first for me, that interview smacked me right in the face because nothing about Shindokan is publicly found, as it was the direct wishes of our Soke, and in that, any information shared with whomever about Shindokan is because I've shared said information, as it was my right. So, here's Shindokan's lineage as handed down to us, his student body, by our Soke...

Shindokan Lineage:

Satunuku "Tode" Sakugawa (1733 - 1815)

Sokon "Bushi" Matsumura (1797 - 1889)

Anko Itosu (1830 - 1915)

Shigekazu Ishikawa (1864 - 1959) (Shuri-te)

Choshu Saitou (1865 - 1962) (Okinawa-te*) (This is the father of Soke Saitou) (*Choshu Saitou's Okinawa-te Instructor is unknown)

Fuyuhiko Saitou (1917 - 2008) (Shindokan** founder; Shindokan was founded in 1950.) (**His instructors were, his father, Choshu Saitou, this is the Okinawa-te side of Shindokan, and Shigekazu Ishikawa, this is the Shuri-te side of Shindokan)

Yoshinobu Takahashi (1932 - 2010) (Dai-Soke; and the first student of Soke Saitou)

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*Some Students of Dai-Soke Takahashi*

Robert Mitcham (1957 - ) (Kaicho [President]) [8th Dan]

Greg Forsythe (1958 - ) (Kancho [Vice-President] & Chief Instructor of the Shindokan Hombu) [8th Dan]

Iwao Takahashi (San Dai-Soke) (Eldest son of Yoshinobu Takahashi) [Ultra Vires~Without Authority] [8th Dan]

Thomas Stillwater (Directing Manager of Technical Department & Qualifications Department) [8th Dan]

Jonathan Plouge (Board Of Regents ~ Secretary) [7th Dan]

Ben Stevenson (Board Of Regents ~ Assistant Directing Manager of Technical Department & Qualifications Department) [7th Dan]

Giichi Tanaka (Board Of Regents ~ Qualifications Department) [6th Dan]

Yoshikazu Inoue (Board Of Regents ~ Qualifications Department) [7th Dan]

Roger Fremoire (Board Of Regents ~ Qualifications Department) [6th Dan]

James Mitchell (Board Of Regents ~ Director Accounting Department) [5th Dan]

Paul Abernwood (Board Of Regents ~ Director Human Resources Department) [7th Dan]

Steven Barlow (Board Of Regents ~ Assistant Director Human Resources Department) [6th Dan]

Maria Brogdon (Board Of Regents ~ Director General Planning Department) [5th Dan]

Kiyoshi Oonishi (Board Of Regents ~ Assistant Director Planning Department) [5th Dan]

***Facts, Lineage, and History can be found within the Shindokan Densho, Hand Scrolls, and By-Laws***

Edited May 30, 2011 by sensei8

[Jay]

This is really interesting Bob

Thanks for adding it

I really enjoyed your proof is on the floor discussion as well.

[sensei8]

This is really interesting Bob

Thanks for adding it

I really enjoyed your proof is on the floor discussion as well.

Thanks Jay, I appreciate it. I'm glad to know that you really enjoyed the proof on the floor segment...it's something I live by.

I felt that my guest spot was fine, even though I felt it a bit disjointed at times. That's probably because that was my very first live interview...I was pretty nervous.

The LiveStream was pretty interesting and quite fun...I loved the entire experience.

[JusticeZero]

Well, that's always the case. I think part of it is also that we're never ready for the questions, even though they're really basic.

I think it's because they're really basic, core things in part; things we no longer really think about because we've been working within it for a long time. I'm never ready for questions about the roda for instance.. it's a bit like asking "Why do you do kata?" Well? Why DO asian stylists do forms/kata? It's really a very foreign ideology that we've just become accustomed to.

Plus, the answers are always uncomfortably oversimplified; they always end up being really simple things that have adjusted and changed and shifted a lot in so many ways that the answers never feel satisfying because they're no longer really totally correct. At the stage where a punch is no longer a punch, the explanations are horrendous, and at the stage when a punch is once again just a punch, it's still no easier to describe in a satisfying way. it goes from "Uhh, i'm not sure" to "That's really complicated to describe and explain, but here's the theory.." to "Because that's just.. how we do it, you know?" At no stage can we give a crisp answer that is enlightening and correct. Well, maybe at that new student stage when we think we understand, but really don't yet.

[sensei8]

JusticeZero,

I hear what you're saying and I greatly appreciate it. It was disjointed for me mainly because the interview was conducted through the phone, and I could see Patrick and I could hear Patrick and Brian through the phone. For me I wasn't comfortable, but the venue was what it was and if I did more of those types of interviews, I'd handle them much more smoothly.

Had I been sitting across from Patrick and Brian, the interview would've been much more smoother because I can see them both as well as there body language and vice versa. Yes, I saw Patrick, but his body language was more tuned into the tasks that he was performing in that given venue.

Sorry I'm not on topic.

[JusticeZero]

It was disjointed for me mainly because the interview was conducted through the phone, and I could see Patrick and I could hear Patrick and Brian through the phone....I saw Patrick, but his body language was more tuned into the tasks that he was performing in that given venue.

Really? So you think you might have been more comfortable if Patrick did not have video feed of himself?

[sensei8]

It was disjointed for me mainly because the interview was conducted through the phone, and I could see Patrick and I could hear Patrick and Brian through the phone....I saw Patrick, but his body language was more tuned into the tasks that he was performing in that given venue.

Really? So you think you might have been more comfortable if Patrick did not have video feed of himself?

No! The entire venue was impersonal for me, and that's only because I've never done that before. I guess that I'm more use to being face to face, in the same room. The fault is not Patrick, no, it's my fault for being the way that I am.

[Jeffrey]

I was thinking after I had to leave the livestream that since we have this Skype thing loaded we should try to get together a few times a year.

Do a little Kitchen Kata together.

Just a thought.

[sensei8]

I was thinking after I had to leave the livestream that since we have this Skype thing loaded we should try to get together a few times a year.

Do a little Kitchen Kata together.

Just a thought.

I think your idea is...

FANTASTIC!!

I'm in!!

[DWx]

Very interesting read Bob. Loved listening to you and hearing about Shindokan on Sunday