looking for a new school

[tsd1592]

ok guys i took tangsoodo for around 13 years off and on i moved to mo a few years ago i haven't been training for the last 3 years and am looking to get my butt back in the studio so i was wounding if any one new any good studios near Columbia mo excluding tkd i prefer a school who focuses more on hard sparring and actual self defince defiantly not point sparring and tap tourneys i defiantly am looking to add some ground work. so i am hoping you guys have some suggestions for me

[Dobbersky]

TSD, Google is your friend

If you want full contact try Kyokushin, Ashihara or Enshin Karate.

I'm based in the UK so not aboe to assist

[tsd1592]

well googel is not much help all i can find is tkd. Also kyoshukan is not and option they don't hit to the face just kick i am looking for something that is not bound by rules as far as were to strike and training around comp rules i truly love karate but most Japanese styles are governd by or dictated in training by comp rules not all i am not claming all karate is sport orintated just telling you all what i am looking for

[DWx]

You don't seem to have a very good opinion of TKD, I feel I should fight in its corner a little! We're not all tippy tappy, point sparrers. Unfortunately there are lots of bad schools but you can certainly find good strong hard sparring and self defense schools from both ITF and Kukki TKD if you look in the right places. Not all schools are competition orientated.

TBH you'll be hard pressed to find something that isn't bound by any rules. Every style, no matter how hardcore or how real for the street is going to have some rules, purely for the safety aspect. Can't have you gouging chunks out of each other on a regular basis.

Dobbersky's suggestion for styles are good; knockdown Karate is what I would have said since you want hard contact. If that's all you can find in your area using Google, that might be all there is. Unless you start looking around for those less advertised, word-of-mouth schools.

[Sokusen]

There are 2 Uechi Ryu schools in Mo. Though I have no idea how close they are to Columbia. They are in Barnhart, Missouri and St. Peters, Missouri. I like Uechi for it's simplicity and you could go either way with the sparring, knock down or point.

[tsd1592]

You don't seem to have a very good opinion of TKD, I feel I should fight in its corner a little! We're not all tippy tappy, point sparrers. Unfortunately there are lots of bad schools but you can certainly find good strong hard sparring and self defense schools from both ITF and Kukki TKD if you look in the right places. Not all schools are competition orientated.

you are very true. Not all tkd is tippy tappy. I personally think tkd is a very beautiful art. But sadly in the us most of it has become a sport.

TBH you'll be hard pressed to find something that isn't bound by any rules. Every style, no matter how hardcore or how real for the street is going to have some rules, purely for the safety aspect. Can't have you gouging chunks out of each other on a regular basis.

I don't necessarily believe this. I think there are still many schools whose curriculum and sparing have not been modified for sport or insurance reasons. There are still purest out there. Its not that i am aginst tourneys. Just agenst focusing on point comps. my reasoning here is muscle memory. I don't want to program my body to pull a punch or kick.

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[bushido_man96]

I'm confused as well. I'm not sure where you will be able to find a bunch of like minded individuals who like to beat the crap out of each other with no rules involved. As mentioned, there will be some level of rules around for sparring purposes.

You could look into a Boxing gym or an MMA gym. Perhaps Muay Thai? Those might be up your alley. However, they do have rules to their sparring, as well.

[sensei8]

There's a Kempo and Shorin-Ryu dojo's in Columbia....sounds like it's time to let your fingers walk in the yellow pages.

I wish you best!!

[tsd1592]

you very much misunderstand me. Of coars there are rules i am simply stating i do not want my sparring sessions governed by sport karate and tournament tactics. I dont believe that a sport and a self defince should merge with one you are taking from the other. I am not looking for lets beat the crap out of each other with no rules. Just something that puts no priority on a comp. But puts total priority in the art. And defintly not tkd very beautiful art just dont fill like we would mix well.

Now sensei8 I heard about the shorin ryu school but i heard it is closed down. Also i cant find anything on the kenpo school in the phone book or on line. If you have a number or Addy for it i would appreciate it

[Dobbersky]

you very much misunderstand me. Of coars there are rules i am simply stating i do not want my sparring sessions governed by sport karate and tournament tactics. I dont believe that a sport and a self defince should merge with one you are taking from the other. I am not looking for lets beat the crap out of each other with no rules. Just something that puts no priority on a comp. But puts total priority in the art. And defintly not tkd very beautiful art just dont fill like we would mix well.

Now sensei8 I heard about the shorin ryu school but i heard it is closed down. Also i cant find anything on the kenpo school in the phone book or on line. If you have a number or Addy for it i would appreciate it

TSD, we don't miss understand you just assisting you as you asked.

If you don't want MMA I'd recmmend this one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daido_Juku

Daido Juku literally translated means "School of the Great Way". It incorporates techniques which were not present at that time in full contact karate styles. Azuma, being a third-degree black belt in Judo as well as a 4th-degree black belt in Kyokushin karate, recognized the potential for a hybrid martial art. These would not be restricted by the boundaries of a single style but would use techniques from various martial arts, namely, at the time of its creation in 1980, Judo and Karate. In the late 1980s and early 90s the style began to incorporate various techniques from muay thai, boxing, Jujutsu, sambo, submission wrestling, and other martial arts, fine tuning each technique for use within the Daidojuku style. One of the fundamental goals of Daidojuku being the creation of a versatile and realistic fighting style without compromising safety, Azuma created a style which incorporated various offensive as well as defensive techniques which includes punches to the head, elbow strikes, head butts, judo throws, jiu-jitsu jointlocks and other standup and ground fighting techniques.

wish you luck finding a place that teaches this.

If you are able Get yourself a position as a Uchi Deshi (Live-in Student) in Japan if your single, young enough and you got no ties where you are, grade to 2nd Dan in Japan then open your own school back home when you return.