I feel bad

[honoluludesktop]

I xplained it to him and he didnt care, he just told me that its not his fault he has giant feet

In training, it always takes two to tango, are you sure that you aren't doing something to get in the way of his feet? Does he step on the feet of others?

In a fight, aside from feinting to provoke a reaction, you have little control over your opponent, but you should have total control of yourself.

[ChristianeHigashi]

If it were at my dojo..

a kick in the face would be nothing bad because the kid shouldnt have moved.. karate comes with responsibility and discipline... the kid should know that but 5 time? it wouldn't be acceptable

[Kuma]

Being from the outside looking in, it's always hard to second guess. However, I would like to point out a few things just from what I've read here on KarateForums and my own opinions:

(1) "Teaching a lesson" to a 10 year old isn't acceptable in my eyes. If the kid doesn't want to be there, let his parents know until his attitude adjusts he's not allowed to be. Tell him either his attitude changes or he goes. Simple.

(2) I can also understand 1-2 accidental hits going through on a child. On the rare occasion when I get to help out with a kid's class, the adults will "spar" the young kids and though we fight back it's never at full power. Sometimes accidents do happen, but five times in one encounter is a bit over the top.

(3) You said in another post you were an instructor Holley? If so, from another thread where you stated "i BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF A KID BECAUSE MY SENSEI TOLD ME TOO BECAUSE THE KID WAS NOT LISTENING" is the wrong attitude for an instructor to have. If I read that or heard that from an instructor of my child, they would be pulled and the word would start getting around. I don't know why you became an instructor if you have just been training since December of last year, but from those posts alone your maturity level is definitely not where it should be. Martial arts instruction is a serious thing as people can be injured quite badly if you're not careful and/or being reckless. I think it's time to take a good long look at yourself and see if you really are setting the example as an instructor should.

[holley]

Being from the outside looking in, it's always hard to second guess. However, I would like to point out a few things just from what I've read here on KarateForums and my own opinions:

(1) "Teaching a lesson" to a 10 year old isn't acceptable in my eyes. If the kid doesn't want to be there, let his parents know until his attitude adjusts he's not allowed to be. Tell him either his attitude changes or he goes. Simple.

(2) I can also understand 1-2 accidental hits going through on a child. On the rare occasion when I get to help out with a kid's class, the adults will "spar" the young kids and though we fight back it's never at full power. Sometimes accidents do happen, but five times in one encounter is a bit over the top.

(3) You said in another post you were an instructor Holley? If so, from another thread where you stated "i BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF A KID BECAUSE MY SENSEI TOLD ME TOO BECAUSE THE KID WAS NOT LISTENING" is the wrong attitude for an instructor to have. If I read that or heard that from an instructor of my child, they would be pulled and the word would start getting around. I don't know why you became an instructor if you have just been training since December of last year, but from those posts alone your maturity level is definitely not where it should be. Martial arts instruction is a serious thing as people can be injured quite badly if you're not careful and/or being reckless. I think it's time to take a good long look at yourself and see if you really are setting the example as an instructor should.

I would just like to say that Im not actually a instructor yet... I think u might have mis understood... I am only an orange belt. The only reason i help my sensei teach the classes is because she needs help she is training me... To eventually be an instructor... she said its his fault that he keeps getting kicked in that face because he is moving the bad...

[Kuma]

I would say then, if you want to be an instructor you need to avoid some of the things you've stated in some of your posts already.

Five times is a bit extreme, but if he really is moving the bag constantly, well that's hard to figure out. However, posting about how you "beat the crap" out of a young kid is not somebody I would want instructing my kids someday.

[holley]

I was just frustrated and i was venting and should not have done that

[brickshooter]

I was just frustrated and i was venting and should not have done that

Personally, if I tagged some kid by accident the 3rd time, I'll ask the instructor to give me a new partner because our skill levels are too far apart for mutual benefit.

[holley]

its hard because we are both the same belt color but im alot more advanced than he is...

[sensei8]

Sometimes, as an adult, we have to say "I'm sorry!" Whether it was your fault or whether it was his fault; to me, that's not the argument. Who's the adult and who is the child? We only have one chance to make a positive impression, and this time seems to have passed.

Let it go, move forward and just train hard!! To move forward, someone's going to have to say "I'm sorry" first...why not you?! Control is important and it's also the key across the board...both for you and him.

Respect begets respect!!

Edited April 24, 2011 by sensei8

[ps1]

Holley,

First, stop apologizing. This is an online forum. If you can't vent here, what's the point of being on it? We really do want to hear what you have to say. It's always nice to have new people in the community and I don't think anyone here wants you to stop talking or anything like that.

Here's how I see it. You have given us a very isolated look at your dojo. Like looking through the blinds on a window. I see the following:

1. A Sensei who seems unconcerned with how a ten year old boy is doing

2. Kids fooling around and getting hit

3. Adults stepping all over each other and not caring.

4. A TOTAL LACK OF DISCIPLINE

It's unconscionable to me that I would step on someone's foot and, upon them telling me it hurt, I would basically tell them to sluff off! An apology of some sort should have been in the air. From that point on, you would have to be aware of his "large feet."

It's unconscionable to me that an instructor would have a 20 year old orange belt be in charge of the discipline of a 10 year old trouble maker. The instructor should be all over this kid like white on rice. You don't pay for classes so you can babysit someone else's kid. Despite what you think, no orange belt is that advanced. You just have more control over your body due to being more developed by 10 years. Don't feel bad, I don't even look at newer black belts as advanced.

It's ridiculous that after the kid moving the pad even 2 times, you would keep going with the drill. It's neither your duty or your obligation to deal with that. In similar situations, I've had students step out and held pads myself. Did you open your mouth during the drill to ask for help?

To me, this isn't about the kid, it's not about someone stepping on your toes, and it's not much about you. It sounds like you have a crappy instructor that isn't too interested in your training. Again, I totally realize that my view of the situation is very limited and one sided. But this is how I view what you've said.