sensei8 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Imho, the politics within the martial arts has destroyed the meaning of Bushido across the board. What was once valued, is so easily traded for selfishness. Politics within the martial arts taints the opportunities for any valued betterment.Your thoughts? **I wasn't sure if I should put this topic in General Martial Arts or Internal Arts and Philosophy or Martial Arts and Politics, therefore I placed it here: General Martial Arts. Hopefully it'll suffice!** **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojobo Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Imho, the politics within the martial arts has destroyed the meaning of Bushido across the board. What was once valued, is so easily traded for selfishness. Politics within the martial arts taints the opportunities for any valued betterment.Your thoughts? It is said that the seven pleats in ones hakama (two at the back and 5 at the front) represent the seven virtues of the Bushi namely:-Justice,Courage,Benevolence,Respect,Sincerity,Honour and Loyalty.I think I know where you are going with this sensei8. There seems to be less and less of this arround these days.sojobo I know violence isn't the answer... I got it wrong on purpose!!!http://www.karatedo.co.jp/wado/w_eng/e_index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps1 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Imho, the politics within the martial arts has destroyed the meaning of Bushido across the board. What was once valued, is so easily traded for selfishness. Politics within the martial arts taints the opportunities for any valued betterment.Your thoughts?It's sad that you're right. Remember that art always reflects the times in which it exists. I think you could make the same argument about government and society as a whole in today's world. That said, I can only fix the problem one way. That is to do what's right and expect the same of my family and students. If I am lucky, they will pass it on as well. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honoluludesktop Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Bushido exist, perhaps not in a modern dojo, but on the American front line in Afghanistan, the people working on site to repair Japan's nuclear reactors, and those citizens of Arabic countries seeking democracy.IMO, modern martial arts is more like a treasured antique. Functional, but limited in application, especially in a modern society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isshinryu5toforever Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 What exactly do you mean by Bushido? I think I need some clarification on that. The word has been adapted and changed a lot even in Japan.In the beginning it was just a warrior's code. It was a way to make sure you lived and died by the sword. It did idealize an educated warrior, but being a warrior is what set him apart. Most stories of Bushido are stories of being wreckless in the face of sure defeat, pride, and devotion to one's master.An example, the story of the 47 Ronin has become a story that represents Bushido to many people. Their master is killed, so they plot to seek revenge over many years. They make sure their plan is successful by waiting. It was criticized by some older samurai of the age, because they showed initial cowardice. They thought too much when they should have simply reacted without caring about the outcome. To them, that would have been true Bushido spirit.Once Japan hit the Meiji period, it became more of a gentleman's code. Especially once the warrior class was eliminated. It was used by the government to bring more loyalty to the emperor. During WWII it was hijacked to create a fervent devotion to the emperor. The devotion was so great that people were willing to sacrifice everything to save the emperor (thus saving the country, at least ideally).So, I don't know if we can really talk about Bushido these days. Especially given the context. I will agree though that people have become to selfish and greedy. He who knows others is wise. He who knows himself is enlightened.- Tao Te Ching"Move as swift as a wind, stay as silent as forest, attack as fierce as fire, undefeatable defense like a mountain."- Sun Tzu, the Art of War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evergrey Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Politics are a poison, no argument here. http://kyokushinchick.blogspot.com/"If you can fatally judo-chop a bull, you can sit however you want." -MasterPain, on why Mas Oyama had Kyokushin karateka sit in seiza with their clenched fists on their thighs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei8 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 Imho, the politics within the martial arts has destroyed the meaning of Bushido across the board. What was once valued, is so easily traded for selfishness. Politics within the martial arts taints the opportunities for any valued betterment.Your thoughts? It is said that the seven pleats in ones hakama (two at the back and 5 at the front) represent the seven virtues of the Bushi namely:-Justice,Courage,Benevolence,Respect,Sincerity,Honour and Loyalty.I think I know where you are going with this sensei8. There seems to be less and less of this arround these days.sojoboYes...it saddens me a lot!! **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei8 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 What exactly do you mean by Bushido? I think I need some clarification on that.I speak mainly of the 7 virtues of Bushido. I see a lot of MAists that do not understand and/or believe in the 7 virtues of Bushido, but those who just don't want to. Again, this saddens me. **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarateGeorge Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 As John Acton once wrote, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Many of the points are lost in so many ways when you cross the political side with the Martial Arts side. You watch Higher Ranks juggle for position with in a large organization much the same way a modern politician would. It is sad when people put their own agenda ahead of the students and the school. What bothers me the most, is the clicks that form with certain schools banding together. Do people really believe that you need to be on the right side of the political fence to receive a high rank? But what happens to the schools that are not on that side of the fence. Students have a hard time competing at various tournaments because of this or that judge. The whole thing just makes me sad. For those that try to adhere to the code, they are often few and alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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