Goshin Jutsu Kata - where is it????

[Dobbersky]

I was wondering, I've contacted many Judo Dojo's around the country and none of the ones I've contacted don't practice the Judo Kata.

There are seven kata that are recognized by the Kodokan today:

Free practice forms (Randori), comprising two kata:

Throwing forms (Nage no Kata)

Grappling forms (Katame no Kata)

Old style self-defence forms (Kime no Kata)

Modern self-defence forms (Kodokan Goshin Jutsu)

Forms of "gentleness" (Ju no Kata)

The five forms (Itsutsu no Kata)

Ancient forms (Koshiki no Kata)

Maximum-efficiency national physical education kata (Seiryoku Zen; Kokumin Taiiku no Kata)

There are also other kata that are not officially recognized by the Kodokan but that continue to be practised. The most prominent example of these is the Go no sen no kata, a kata that focuses on counter-attacks to attempted throws.

I was wondering from our experienced Martial Artists has anyone had any experience to ANY of the kata quoted above.

My main concern is Goshin Jutsu Kata

it is perform in Kodokan Judo AND Aikido and its "reputation" for being an excellent kata preceeds it. I know it is normally taught to Yondan and above but someone must be able to advise or comment on whether it warrants its status in being one of the best kata in Japanese martial arts.

[sojobo]

I was wondering, I've contacted many Judo Dojo's around the country and none of the ones I've contacted don't practice the Judo Kata.

There are seven kata that are recognized by the Kodokan today:

Free practice forms (Randori), comprising two kata:

Throwing forms (Nage no Kata)

Grappling forms (Katame no Kata)

Old style self-defence forms (Kime no Kata)

Modern self-defence forms (Kodokan Goshin Jutsu)

Forms of "gentleness" (Ju no Kata)

The five forms (Itsutsu no Kata)

Ancient forms (Koshiki no Kata)

Maximum-efficiency national physical education kata (Seiryoku Zen; Kokumin Taiiku no Kata)

There are also other kata that are not officially recognized by the Kodokan but that continue to be practised. The most prominent example of these is the Go no sen no kata, a kata that focuses on counter-attacks to attempted throws.

I was wondering from our experienced Martial Artists has anyone had any experience to ANY of the kata quoted above.

My main concern is Goshin Jutsu Kata

it is perform in Kodokan Judo AND Aikido and its "reputation" for being an excellent kata preceeds it. I know it is normally taught to Yondan and above but someone must be able to advise or comment on whether it warrants its status in being one of the best kata in Japanese martial arts.

Are you saying that none of the dojo you contacted practiced them?

I don't think they are that common these days.

I am pretty sure that many of these come from Tenshin Shinyo Ryu (in some shape or form) - and if you are interested in finding out more perhaps that would be a starting point.

Downside is - there are only 2 people in the UK that I know of who have licences in TSR (one of them is my instructor).

sojobo

[Kogusoku]

I learned it very early on, when I was a nidan in jūdō while living in Japan.

It really depends on the teacher you are studying with. Some go by the book and have you wait until you are godan (5th dan), while others are more relaxed and accomodating, providing you actually show a proper, respectful interest in learning the skill set in question.