zalexia Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I was in my advanced brown/black belt class today and one of the sensei's ( mostly black belt class) was saying as we were doing inside crescent kick (sp ) i'm not fully awake yet that it is illegal in competitions because u have no control over the weight of ur foot when its going down theres no interrupting it.I see at even the low levels learning this. Wouldn't it be wise to tell the students when they're younger the dangers of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterPain Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I was in my advanced brown/black belt class today and one of the sensei's ( mostly black belt class) was saying as we were doing inside crescent kick (sp ) i'm not fully awake yet that it is illegal in competitions because u have no control over the weight of ur foot when its going down theres no interrupting it.I see at even the low levels learning this. Wouldn't it be wise to tell the students when they're younger the dangers of it?While everyone should be aware of risks, matches have rules to protect competitors. In self defense, the cultural norms have already been broken in the act of attacking someone. In such a situation, it behooves you to know things that can hurt someone. My fists bleed death. -Akuma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joesteph Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 . . . as we were doing inside crescent kick . . . that it is illegal in competitions because u have no control over the weight of ur foot when its going down theres no interrupting it.It sounds like the kick is being used like an axe kick, rather that straight across, such as to the head. My teacher favors teaching it so that we aim for the collar bone when sparring and for self-defense, although in certain exercises we use it straight across, as though against the head.Since Soo Bahk Do is non-contact, the kick is permitted in sparring. ~ JoeVee Arnis Jitsu/JuJitsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei8 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 why teach skills that are illegal in "matches"As this thread is titled; what might be illegal in "matches", surely isn't illegal elsewhere. **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevinyrral Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 And also mayby by learning this kick you will easier learn other things, or it can be simply good for training. A style is just a name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWx Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I'd be more concerned if your teacher was only teaching you techniques that were allowed in sport matches, unless of course your only interest in the style was for the competition aspect. For all the reasons already mentioned it would be good to learn stuff that you can't use in competition. Besides you may want to compete one day in a tournament that does allow them. "Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it." ~ Confucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps1 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I'd be more concerned if your teacher was only teaching you techniques that were allowed in sport matches, unless of course your only interest in the style was for the competition aspect. For all the reasons already mentioned it would be good to learn stuff that you can't use in competition. Besides you may want to compete one day in a tournament that does allow them.Agreed.I've learned many things that aren't legal in sport matches. It makes you a well rounded martial artist. Also, what is illegal in one type of sport may be perfectly legal in another. The crescent kick (or axe kick) would be perfectly legal in a knockdown karate tournament and MMA events. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 In most of the TKD sparring I have done, punching to the head is not legal, yet we practice high punches all the time. Same with kicking to the groin. But self-defense is different, and a good Martial Art should cover the aspect of it, even at the expense of the competition aspect. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evergrey Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Some guy out of his mind on meth who becomes convinced that you are a government agent conspiring against him or something isn't going to care what is and isn't legal in "matches." Even with all the fun and pretty sports that are attached to modern martial arts, they are still, in essence, martial. http://kyokushinchick.blogspot.com/"If you can fatally judo-chop a bull, you can sit however you want." -MasterPain, on why Mas Oyama had Kyokushin karateka sit in seiza with their clenched fists on their thighs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokusen Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Some guy out of his mind on meth who becomes convinced that you are a government agent conspiring against him or something isn't going to care what is and isn't legal in God help you is your trying to stop that guy with an inside crescent kick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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