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No, I didn't misread. Just agreeing, basically. Sorry about that confusion.

I'm always confused.

And around here, it's worse because my Japanese mostly comes from anime.

My fists bleed death. -Akuma

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There is a big difference between BANKAI and BUNKAI, apparently.

My fists bleed death. -Akuma

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I've never done any "Hapkido sparring," although I think it would be a good thing to develop, especially as hard as it can be to apply a joint lock on a less than cooperative opponent.

Hapkido and Aiki Jujitsu have alot in common. Once I got good at it, I would get together with another bb and attempt to do a little sparring with it. I found it very difficult to apply when not being attacked by a sword wielding opponent. That said, it worked great in situations where the opponent was attempting to draw a weapon (hand gun, knife, sword). That was the design of the art though...so go figure.

I've found that I can lock out arms and wrists left and right when sparring unarmed against an armed opponent, but can't land strikes with impunity. With both unarmed the locks don't work as well. I think part of it is that while the end of a stick travels faster than a punch, the weight of the weapons slows the weapon hand. Also there is a mental fixation on the weapon by its wielder. As my buddy said the other day, the left punch is a knife fighters secret weapon.

I've just found it too difficult to time the boxing style punches. Get with someone who is a boxer and tell them to do a few combos...I think you'll find very different results. Now, if someone is really following through with some wild punches...sure you'll get them.

I agree with your assessment on the weapons aspect.

I think you misread me. I said I could not get locks against punches.

Oh ok....my bad! Ummm... my English isn't good... :-? Yeah..that's it...we'll blame it on my English! Only been speaking it for 31 years. I'll have to keep practicing :)

"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius."

  • 2 weeks later...
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Hapkido seems to be more about learning certain principles of movement and power production than it is about learning how to wrist lock people from straight punches. The wrist locks and leg locks are there to teach you how to move and produce energy efficiently, but they aren't going to teach you how to wrist lock a boxer. At least, that's what I've been hearing from a few 5th and 6th dans here in Korea.

He who knows others is wise. He who knows himself is enlightened.

- Tao Te Ching


"Move as swift as a wind, stay as silent as forest, attack as fierce as fire, undefeatable defense like a mountain."

- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

  • 5 months later...
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I have trained in Hapkido for 8 years and we do spar but not with the joint locks or sweeps as someone posted earlier. Performing these techniques can be very dangerous. So that is why. But if you are proficient you can perform these techniques and inflict serious injury. :x

The most successful battle is the one in which you master yourself.

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I have trained in Hapkido for 8 years and we do spar but not with the joint locks or sweeps as someone posted earlier. Performing these techniques can be very dangerous. So that is why. But if you are proficient you can perform these techniques and inflict serious injury. :x

I hear this a lot, but I have trouble seeing it. GM Pelligrini makes claims like that as well. Yet BJJers and Judoka can spar without these problems. I understand that smaller joints are being attacked, but, if you grab someone's wrist, and they start to resist, you get into a tug-of-war, and then you can see how other types of attacks and come into play. I think a type of sparring could be done, given sufficient research.

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