Kwan Nyom Hapkido and sparring

[Soheir]

I have gotten the impression that in Kwan Nyom Hapkido, sparring is not necessarily part of one's training. I would like to hear about the reasons for this. Does people training this style think it's good or a bad thing (do they sparr anyway?) /is it necessary for self defence in this style?

This is not provocation if it sounds like it! I would just like to know the outlook on this from the people who train Kwan Nyom.

And if Im wrong on the sparring thing and it does belong to the style in your school, let me know.

[blade1116]

I'm not sure of that style of Hapkido, but in my school we sparred but there were no joint locks or sweeps done at full speed. Those techniques can cause serious injury. We sparred mainly with punching, kicking, and half speed throwing.

[bushido_man96]

I've never done any "Hapkido sparring," although I think it would be a good thing to develop, especially as hard as it can be to apply a joint lock on a less than cooperative opponent.

[ps1]

I've never done any "Hapkido sparring," although I think it would be a good thing to develop, especially as hard as it can be to apply a joint lock on a less than cooperative opponent.

Hapkido and Aiki Jujitsu have alot in common. Once I got good at it, I would get together with another bb and attempt to do a little sparring with it. I found it very difficult to apply when not being attacked by a sword wielding opponent. That said, it worked great in situations where the opponent was attempting to draw a weapon (hand gun, knife, sword). That was the design of the art though...so go figure.

[bushido_man96]

Yeah, I guess a rather specialized style.

[MasterPain]

I've never done any "Hapkido sparring," although I think it would be a good thing to develop, especially as hard as it can be to apply a joint lock on a less than cooperative opponent.

Hapkido and Aiki Jujitsu have alot in common. Once I got good at it, I would get together with another bb and attempt to do a little sparring with it. I found it very difficult to apply when not being attacked by a sword wielding opponent. That said, it worked great in situations where the opponent was attempting to draw a weapon (hand gun, knife, sword). That was the design of the art though...so go figure.

I've found that I can lock out arms and wrists left and right when sparring unarmed against an armed opponent, but can't land strikes with impunity. With both unarmed the locks don't work as well. I think part of it is that while the end of a stick travels faster than a punch, the weight of the weapons slows the weapon hand. Also there is a mental fixation on the weapon by its wielder. As my buddy said the other day, the left punch is a knife fighters secret weapon.

[ps1]

I've never done any "Hapkido sparring," although I think it would be a good thing to develop, especially as hard as it can be to apply a joint lock on a less than cooperative opponent.

Hapkido and Aiki Jujitsu have alot in common. Once I got good at it, I would get together with another bb and attempt to do a little sparring with it. I found it very difficult to apply when not being attacked by a sword wielding opponent. That said, it worked great in situations where the opponent was attempting to draw a weapon (hand gun, knife, sword). That was the design of the art though...so go figure.

I've found that I can lock out arms and wrists left and right when sparring unarmed against an armed opponent, but can't land strikes with impunity. With both unarmed the locks don't work as well. I think part of it is that while the end of a stick travels faster than a punch, the weight of the weapons slows the weapon hand. Also there is a mental fixation on the weapon by its wielder. As my buddy said the other day, the left punch is a knife fighters secret weapon.

I've just found it too difficult to time the boxing style punches. Get with someone who is a boxer and tell them to do a few combos...I think you'll find very different results. Now, if someone is really following through with some wild punches...sure you'll get them.

I agree with your assessment on the weapons aspect.

[bushido_man96]

Yeah, I have no illusions about catching any punches.

[MasterPain]

I've never done any "Hapkido sparring," although I think it would be a good thing to develop, especially as hard as it can be to apply a joint lock on a less than cooperative opponent.

Hapkido and Aiki Jujitsu have alot in common. Once I got good at it, I would get together with another bb and attempt to do a little sparring with it. I found it very difficult to apply when not being attacked by a sword wielding opponent. That said, it worked great in situations where the opponent was attempting to draw a weapon (hand gun, knife, sword). That was the design of the art though...so go figure.

I've found that I can lock out arms and wrists left and right when sparring unarmed against an armed opponent, but can't land strikes with impunity. With both unarmed the locks don't work as well. I think part of it is that while the end of a stick travels faster than a punch, the weight of the weapons slows the weapon hand. Also there is a mental fixation on the weapon by its wielder. As my buddy said the other day, the left punch is a knife fighters secret weapon.

I've just found it too difficult to time the boxing style punches. Get with someone who is a boxer and tell them to do a few combos...I think you'll find very different results. Now, if someone is really following through with some wild punches...sure you'll get them.

I agree with your assessment on the weapons aspect.

I think you misread me. I said I could not get locks against punches.

[bushido_man96]

No, I didn't misread. Just agreeing, basically. Sorry about that confusion.