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Motobu Ryu


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Hello,

Yes I wouldn't mind seeing the details.

I don't live anywhere near Southern California (more's the pitty), but Motobu was I big influence on Otsuka when he was creating Wado ryu.

Particularly Naihanchi Kata.

Sojobo

I know violence isn't the answer... I got it wrong on purpose!!!


http://www.karatedo.co.jp/wado/w_eng/e_index.htm

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There is a difference between motobyu ryu and choki motobu's shorin ryu. Choki Motobu influenced wado ryu. I assume that a motobu ryu dojo is in bakersfield since a seminar of motobu ryu was held there.

I'd be interested to find out more. As far as I understood, Choki Motobu was the founder of Motobu Ryu??

Sojobo

I know violence isn't the answer... I got it wrong on purpose!!!


http://www.karatedo.co.jp/wado/w_eng/e_index.htm

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Back in the old days, only the oldest son can be the inheritor of a system. Choki motobu's older brother learned motobu ryu, but Choki Motobu only learned naihanchi from motobu ryu. Choki Motobu was notorious for starting fights in the red light district to refined his naihanchi kata. Choki motobu praciticed naihanchi many times a day because he liked practicing karate excessively.

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There is a difference between motobyu ryu and choki motobu's shorin ryu. Choki Motobu influenced wado ryu. I assume that a motobu ryu dojo is in bakersfield since a seminar of motobu ryu was held there.

I'd be interested to find out more. As far as I understood, Choki Motobu was the founder of Motobu Ryu??

Sojobo

It depends on if you're talking about Motobu-Ryu in the Japanese manner or the Okinawan one. When they talk about Motobu-Ryu in the Japanese sense, they're talking specifically about Choki Motobu's personal style. He never propagated it, never codified it, and never taught it in an official way. His influence, especially when it came to the idea of jissen kumite, was wide. He, like Mas Oyama after him, believed in the hardening of the spirit through battle. Some people have named their systems Motobu-ryu after Choki Motobu, but they do not belong to him. His brother did transmit the family style, which I think is called Motobu Udundi. From what I've heard about the two styles, they're much different.

He who knows others is wise. He who knows himself is enlightened.

- Tao Te Ching


"Move as swift as a wind, stay as silent as forest, attack as fierce as fire, undefeatable defense like a mountain."

- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

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Here are a couple of groups in SoCal that I believe go by Motobu-ha. Some descriptions of their lineage can be found at their sites, mostly the 2nd one.

The first is Te-Kenjutsu-Kan. They have dojos in Orange County and Los Angeles County, kinda far from San Diego. Here's a link to their group.

http://te-kenjutsu-kan.com/

The second is in L.A. County only, as far as I know. They're the Kenjutsuryu Karate Federation.

http://www.sirenwebdesign.com/SITE-kenjutsuryu/

John - ASE Martial Arts Supply

https://www.asemartialarts.com

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