NewLevel Posted August 25, 2010 Posted August 25, 2010 Are there any grappling in Karate? "In time of grave public crisis, one must have the courage to face a million and one opponents..." - Gichin Funakoshi
BDPulver Posted August 25, 2010 Posted August 25, 2010 Yes and No.Depends on the style and instructor. When I teach to my students I try to teach them how to avoid being grappled and if they are how to defend in that position. Mind you I'm not an expert on the grappling art so my intentions is to show a student it can happen and what to do.
Sokusen Posted August 25, 2010 Posted August 25, 2010 It also depends on what you consider grappling to be. If you mean grappling to the extent of jujitsu then no that would be jujitsu and a whole other art that takes a lifetime to master. But there are plenty of karate styles that are open handed styles that emphasize grabbing and controlling the opponent. This type of grappling then opens the doors for take downs and locks.
sensei8 Posted August 25, 2010 Posted August 25, 2010 In Shindokan, we've Tuite; therefore, we've tons of grappling.Tuite is the method of manipulating joints through grappling to control and incapacitate an attacker. Tuite is literally translated as "grasping hand", and is an advanced art that requires the knowledge of Kyusho-Jitsu in order to weaken and release joints. In addition to the study of the pressure-points, Tuite also requires the study of the body's joints, how they function mechanically, and how they control the rest of the body.Any joint can be injured or dislocated using much force and pressure, however this is not what Tuite is all about. Tuite is the ability to create total vulnerability in a joint using minimal effort. The key is to manipulate the joint so that this vulnerability is created before the joint is actually "locked out", or dislocated. This is accomplished by stimulating certain pressure-points in order to override the body's defenses that protect the joints from injury. Therefore, Tuite and Kyusho-Jitsu are interrelated in self-defense. **Proof is on the floor!!!
BDPulver Posted August 25, 2010 Posted August 25, 2010 ah, i forgot bout Tuite. Thanks for reminding me on that sensei8.
ps1 Posted August 26, 2010 Posted August 26, 2010 There is some grappling in most forms of karate. However, it is usually not practiced very much. Just depends on the system and instructor. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius."
Capt Jakk Posted August 26, 2010 Posted August 26, 2010 Based on my experience, most grappling was stand up and usually ended up in a throw. I also thought that there was a lack of the simpler throws being shown. I felt that a hip throw or Osoto Gari would have been faster and more effective than most of the beginner takedowns that were shown. There were a couple of cool moves though.
KumitePanda Posted August 26, 2010 Posted August 26, 2010 in traditional shotokan karate, there is no grappling. ~Rhi
Kuma Posted August 27, 2010 Posted August 27, 2010 in traditional shotokan karate, there is no grappling.I wouldn't say that. Check out the two pictures on this website:http://seinenkai.com/articles/swift/swift-tidbits2.htmlFunakoshi in action demonstrating some grappling bunkai. The article itself is pretty interesting.
bushido_man96 Posted August 27, 2010 Posted August 27, 2010 I do think that most of the grappling that comes out of Karate is stand-up, like sensei8 mentioned. Finding extensive grappling systems seperate of Karate would be better if you want to learn grappling, I think. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
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