Korean for "senior student"?

[DWx]

What's the Korean term you use for "senior student"? So sort of like the equivalent of "senpai"?

Talking to someone the other day in class and I'm not 100% sure the term they used was right.

[joesteph]

The senior student is the Sun Beh (Nim), and the junior is the Hu Beh (no use of "Nim"). Usually, the teacher will just say Sun Beh and Hu Beh, as in telling the Hu Behs to hold the kick shields while the Sun Behs go first, then switch.

(Pronounced as Sun Bay Nim and Hoo Bay. I've also seen "Beh" spelled "Bae," but the pronounciation's the same.)

I might be the Sun Beh at 4th gup if paired with a 5th gup, Danielle, but then be the Hu Beh if paired with a 3rd gup.

[DWx]

Thanks for the info Joe.

Be grateful if anyone knows of other variants or terms you could use.

[isshinryu5toforever]

Luckily, that's the only term Koreans use in that situation. With how complicated the rest of the language is, count yourself lucky.

[DWx]

Oh ok thanks isshinryu

That makes it easier.

[Rateh]

We use hak sa nim (I have no idea how to spell it) for the rank right below black belt.

[joesteph]

We use hak sa nim (I have no idea how to spell it) for the rank right below black belt.

I tried to find this in my Soo Bahk Do manual, Rateh, but no such luck. I did find terms we don't actually use but are listed there anyway:

• Ko Dan Ja--Senior Dan holder (4th Dan and up)
• You Dan Ja--Dan holder (1st Dan through 3rd Dan)
  
• You Gup Ja--Gup holder

[DWx]

We use hak sa nim (I have no idea how to spell it) for the rank right below black belt.

I tried to find this in my Soo Bahk Do manual, Rateh, but no such luck. I did find terms we don't actually use but are listed there anyway:

• Ko Dan Ja--Senior Dan holder (4th Dan and up)
• You Dan Ja--Dan holder (1st Dan through 3rd Dan)
  
• You Gup Ja--Gup holder

That's interesting as the "You Dan Ja" is very similar to the Japanese "Yudansha".

[isshinryu5toforever]

Haksanim doesn't really make any sense. That's a university graduate or bachelor degree holder.

Yu dan ja, ko dan ja, and mu dan ja or yu gup ja are all titles that you wouldn't use to address someone when speaking to them. Those titles would only be used in specific situations while you are talking about someone.

Example: The yudanja at this dojang are (insert names here). or All the people on this list are yugupja.

You would never say: Can you help me Nelson yudanja?

It is similar to Japanese yudansha, because it's the Korean pronunciation of the Chinese characters 有段者. In Korean they're called hanja.

[DWx]

It is similar to Japanese yudansha, because it's the Korean pronunciation of the Chinese characters 有段者. In Korean they're called hanja.

I figured that much. Wonder why Joe's school use "yu gup ja" instead of the equivalent term for "mudansha"....