judo the ultimate martial art

[shadowarrior]

a great highlights

can anyone recognize the song???

[sensei8]

Nice video of Judo, although in my opinion, there's no ultimate style of the martial arts.

The song is Like Light To The Flies by Trivium. I only knew that because it says that on the bottom of the video...LOL...sorry.

[Dobie1979]

Great video. It makes me wish there were a Judo school nearby.

As for the ultimate martial art, I'm with sensei.

[JiuJitsuNation]

Saweeeet! I love judo! Toss someone like that in the street and it's "Game over man!"

[Dobbersky]

I like the grappling arts, although I think the Insurance/Licence fees for the UK are a bit OTT, this doesn't include grading fees or weekly/monthly mat fees etc.

I wanted to start Judo some time ago and all I wanted to do was train maybe get my BB and that’s all, I had to get a "full" licence to be able to do that and Its like I had to compete in local/national comps too.

Going to a Jujitsu Class near me tonight, hopefully I don't need a second mortgage to pay for my licence.

[sensei8]

Saweeeet! I love judo! Toss someone like that in the street and it's "Game over man!"

Absolutely!! Concrete and the like doesn't give, and something has to give, namely our body.

[Jay]

Im hopefully going to be starting some Judo soon. Am pretty excited.

I thought 0.53 was funny. It was like 'Oh he's unconcious, Cool I Win :D'

[StrangeBacon]

In a street scenario alot of the rules of judo could get in the way, in many of the submission holds you could easily be eye gouged or bitten, alot of them arent too hard to get out of either if you have a good understanding of bodily mechanics again due to the MA not being designed for those type of scenarios.

Im not putting it down at all however, i would love to give it a try it looks a great deal of fun and even with my above points i certainly wouldnt want to fight a good judoka in the street

[ps1]

In a street scenario alot of the rules of judo could get in the way, in many of the submission holds you could easily be eye gouged or bitten, alot of them arent too hard to get out of either if you have a good understanding of bodily mechanics again due to the MA not being designed for those type of scenarios.

Im not putting it down at all however, i would love to give it a try it looks a great deal of fun and even with my above points i certainly wouldnt want to fight a good judoka in the street

Respectfully, I would highly suggest you visit and train regularly in a BJJ or Judo club. I think you'll find that a seasoned practitioner isn't going to get eye gouged and their submissions aren't easily escaped.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say you're completely wrong. But I've been where you are. I've trained standing arts since 1985. In 1997, I wrote a 10 page paper stating many of the things you've sited and others. Then, 6 &1/2 years ago I met a BJJ instructor. Not only did I find out I needed to learn the art, but that all my karate, kung fu and Aiki Jujitsu defenses for the submissions were based on incorrect principles and false assumptions.

A combination of my time in the military, 25 years of training, and personal preference has led me to believe that, while standing and striking skills are necessary, submissions are more dependable and based on body mechanics, which can not be thwarted by a strong chin or high pain threshold.

I'm not trying to change the thread or start any kind of flame war here. Just saying that you should get with a true BJJ black belt or high ranking Judo instructor and test your escapes on them. If you've done this and succeded, I'm sorry for assuming otherwise. But if you have not, you may have the opportunity to make yourself even more effective and pass that on to your students.

An open mind is the pathway to wisdom. Good luck.

[StrangeBacon]

Thanks for the well structured reply ps1, you have some great points in there and im sorry if i came across brash or arrogant!

Perhaps if i rephrased it, the meaning i was trying to get across was in a street situation say a general practitioner of both arts not nessessarily a BB, the complexity of a certain throw or submission hold seems a great deal harder to achive than a punch, kick or scrape from a standing position, now there are obviously going to be variables in every situation but i was thinking more of a fight outside a bar i saw recently one guy tried to throw the other over his hip (forgive the lack of terminology i havent studied Judo) the second guy reached over his shoulders and dug his fingers into his eyes.

While not pleasent to watch, it made me think about this very discussion and all the things that could go wrong in a street scenario.

On an ending note, i would love to study at a BJJ or Judo school for some extra experience, unfortunatly there isnt one within about 2 hours drive from me (i live in the countryside) and my work keeps me tied down

As i said in the beginning however, thank you for giving me a different side to the discussion and something to think about!