What would you do in this choke situation?

[JiuJitsuNation]

Close your eyes for a moment. Not yet, read this first. lol Picture two individuals, one standing before another who is kneeling. The standing figure has hands wrapped firmly around the others throat. The kneeling individual grasping at the others hands and gasping for breath.

How would you respond to this situation?

[Lupin1]

Tackle the guy pro-football style?

[Montana]

If I'm understanding you correctly, the standing guy is in front of the kneeing guy and has his hands around the kneeling guys throat?

If so, then his balance is WAY forward because he has to bend over at the waist to get his hands around the others throat. I can't see anybody doing this...to awkward and unnatural.

But anyway, in the given scenerio, I'd probably:

1. lean backwards and kick the guys knees out from under him, or...

2. groin strike with my hand, or...

3. lean back and kick to his groin, or...

4. grab his arm, spin so my back was to him and launch him over my head to the floor, or...

5. lean back ans sweep his legs out, or...

6. his torso is totally exposed and open for any sort of punch you ants to give him.

That's all that comes to mine in 60 seconds...there are others.

[ps1]

I guess it depends on who I am. If I'm the choker, i step around and take the back to finish the choke.

If I'm on bottom, I swivel my knees below me and swivel for the armbar. Or I could base a hand back and stand backward in base, bring my arm through the extended arms of the opponent and get head control and execute a hip throw (assuming the weight is still coming toward me). There are just a ton of options here... that's just a few.

If I'm the observer, I guess it really depends on the situation. Do I know anyone involved? I'm not necessarily willing to get in between two guys fighting. Especially since I don't necessarily know the situation. But if I decide to take action I'm going to peel the choker away from the coked by turning his neck. If I drive him into the choked, it may cause more harm than good.

Out of curiosity, what brings on this question?

[Kuma]

This reminds me of those cheesy ads in Black Belt actually. Tim Larkins', maybe?

[isshinryu5toforever]

He posted it exactly to see what people would say. Most martial artists would say they're they're person being choked, and this is what they'd do. I remember hearing this done at a seminar or something before. All the people they asked talked about getting out of the choke, no one talked about how to maintain the choke. It was done to show that most people are very passive in self defense and not proactive.

[JiuJitsuNation]

Ok everyone. I asked because it shows that the majority of people have a victim mentality. It was done to me when I was younger and I viewed myself as the person being attacked. I have more but it will take a minute to post. I'll do it after my morning classes.

[JiuJitsuNation]

I'm back. I just got to thinking about this because of things I've seen in other topics. Everything ranging from fears of being jumped by grapplers to not rushing in to avoid a front kick! I don't see any of these scenarios as likely. Now if you are hanging out at clubs where you might have some rowdy mma cats, sure. There are three big schools in my area and all of them (regardless of reputation for having them or not) have some guys that go out, get drunk and can't seem to contain their egos. But on an ordinary day? The odds are in your favor you won't.

Many people think self defense and fighting are two different things. Of course they are not. The only difference is the legality in terms. We are allowed to defend ourselves, but we are not allowed to fight. Legal stuff. In a fight you will maintain your space control your area and blahzay e blahzay. Footwork, jab, shoot, counter and on and on. We know this and can contribute to the convo all day.

I think the difference is the mindset. Most mentalities are "I hope I never." Few few have an "I wish they would."Not to say that these types are looking to fight or cause trouble, but rather welcomes the opportunity. Fewer are built for this mentality.

I tend to look to the animal kingdom on what is consistently correct. You can watch a silver back gorilla from the tree line. He sits in the clearing eating his food with his females and his young. You can look but don't disturb him in his natural habit. If you do he will not hesitate to smash you and eat you. Just because he can.

I also believe very strongly in this quote:

Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded man shall say to his assailant "If I live, i will kill you. If I die, you are forgiven." Such is the rule of honor.

May be a little harsh for some but I look forward to the feedback.

[joesteph]

He posted it exactly to see what people would say. . . . It was done to show that most people are very passive in self defense and not proactive.

Ok everyone. I asked because it shows that the majority of people have a victim mentality.

How is presenting this to people who are interested in self-defense to the point that they're training, or have trained, to defend themselves valid to conclude "passive" or "victim mentality"? I wouldn't even consider doing what appears in the scenario as strangling someone.

[JiuJitsuNation]

That wasn't the point. The point was which person did everyone view themselves as. It's not even debatable because only the individual really knows in their heart how they viewed themselves. It was an eye opener for me. Just thought someone else would find it enlightening as well.

And of course you wouldn't you have trained. But a scenario where someone is choked to death may start just like this. Which is why the image disturbs most people.

I show my students chokes and joints locks everyday and the first question I am always asked is what???

Could someone answer this question for me?