Martial Art Fights!

[Martial_Artist]

Tapout,

 

You have said, ah revealed, more in your paragraph than perhaps necessary.

 

What you know, or don't know about me is only what I want you to know or don't know. To assume otherwise, from a mere internet post, is quite revealing to character.

 

Obviously, in your great insight, you have seen into me. You know the extent of what I know, you know the limits, and boundaries, of what I know.

 

Listen, Tapout, I don't make personal attacks based solely on the merit of an internet post. You'd be wiser to avoid assumption (embarassment can oft be avoided this way).

 

Yes, I admit, you know my martial arts education far better than I. Of course, you above all else would clearly see I possess no knowledge of grappling. May I ask a simple question? How did you reach this? If only you knew where my education extends.

 

Ah, now this is funny. Yes, I do not enjoy NHB matchs. As I said, I find them boring. Watching one usually does nothing to educate the viewer. I mean, in reality we all know that when you fight on the street you'll take the guy to the ground and hold him. So it loses its entertainment value.

 

But, hey, why should what I say matter at all, right? Obviously I am uneducated in this matter. What weight should the opinion of an uneducated hold? I think you've answered that one already.

 

Why don't I fight in NHB matches then? Right? If I suddenly know so much, then why not get in the ring, right? The answer to your question is simpler than you might expect. Quite simply, Tapout, I have nothing to prove, to anyone.

 

Why would anyone get into the NHB ring? To prove to others they can fight. To prove they are champions. To prove something to someone. That, simply, is not why I train. It is not why I fight. I have nothing to prove to anyone. I don't fight for sport or show. Never will. That's not what my martial art training means to me. I train for something vastly different, and I have no ego to feed to compel me to have to prove something. So, again you ask: why don't I fight in a NHB fight? I don't need to. I know my skill level. I know what I am capable of. I don't need to get into a ring and prove it to anyone, least of all myself.

 

Besides, us uneducated people might end up breaking rules in a real NHB match and get disqualified.

 

I think, Tapout, that you have vastly underestimated me. I don't train in the martial arts to fight in a ring, or any contest. I train to fight. To win. To survive. What I train to do would automatically disqualify me in a NHB match. Maybe that will quell your question.

 

I don't really expect you to understand. I mean, after all, you are far more educated than I am about grappling, and the rambling of the uneducated usually don't make much sense, right? So let's just leave it at that.

 

By the way, you'll come across more reliable as a source of information when you don't contradict yourself. You said you had no meaning behind posting those video clips. If so, then why all the derrogatory comments about the two martial arts that 'lost' in those videos? Weren't those videos supposed to support your statements? (Like, "Why would a kungfu fight a BJJ, when it's obvious he'd lose?) Where did you get that? I think maybe you placed the video to support your statements. Of course, maybe I wrong. I'm not perfect. Or MAYBE, it's those cheap drugs I take that you have so much insight into.

 

Once again, since you know as much about me as I see fit to disclose to you, you would sound so much more credible not to stake claims to knowing what I know.

 

Why do I speak on subjects I'm not educated on? Simple. I like to make stuff up that sounds good. But, hey, obviously I'm not educated in grappling.

 

Finally, NHB matchs are no more real than point matches. Sure a lot more pain is involved. But what is real, meaning closest to meeting what you would on the street, about two guys faced off in a ring, wearing what they consider the best fighting clothes, knowing in advanced when the fight will be, and having the protection of rules? You know what, maybe some of these guys actually run around town in those little speedos. Or better yet, it's such a comfort to know that in a real fight my eyes won't get gouged out, my bones won't be broken, I won't get bitten, etc.

 

NHB fights are just grittier contests, they don't teach anything about real, meaning stuff found on the streets, fighting. How could they? They're contests of strength, with rules and guidlines. They're not fight to the death, no rules, gladiator type matches.

 

But, then again, I have obviously never watched a NHB match, and I, obviously, have no knowledge about them.

 

I don't think there is anything more I could write about this.

 

I'd like to talk about strategy in a fight. Effectiveness, efficiency, strategy. I think others would bore with further posts on how uneducated I am.

 

Forgive my rambling, I am uneducated in such things...

 

_________________

 

Aut non tentaris aut perfice.

 

Aut inveniam viam aut faciam.

 

[ This Message was edited by: Martial_Artist on 2002-08-01 12:20 ]

 

[ This Message was edited by: Martial_Artist on 2002-08-02 04:09 ]

[coltmakai]

You can't say NHB's have nothing to offer. They are closer to most "fight"situations out there than any other competition.

 

Also, I'm not agreeing with Tapout totally either. I believe that if you are a true master of your art you are at an equal skill level as other masters, but also take note that there is a PERFECT MARTIAL ART, know what it is............MMA.....Mixed martial arts. To be the best fighter, competitor, street survivalist, law enforcement agent, person, you have to be a well rounded individual. If you only face one direction, you never see the beauty behind you.

 

If you were to go to war, as a soldier, would you only take one weapon. I would hope not. I would take a: rifle-to take out people at long range and to cover my friends, a pistol-just in case my rifle jammed, a knife-if i had to take someone out quietly, a grenade...................everyone get the point

 

I train in traditional arts, and in combative arts. I know both sides, both are worthy and credible and deserve no ones slander.

 

 

[Martial_Artist]

Coltmakai,

 

"Closer to real fights than any other competition."

 

I wasn't comparing it to other competitions.

 

I have been in a few street fights, more than I would have wanted. Not a single fight I have been has ever been exemplified in a NHB fight. I find the dissimilarities greater than the obvious similarities. So, as far as preparing for a street fight, watching a NHB fight has absolutely nothing to offer.

 

Let me explain why. If you were preparing yourself for street-fighting you would look for things to better equip yourself for such situations, correct? Correct. Now what part of an NHB fight prepares you for a street fight? Will you be suddenly caught off hand in a ring by your attacker? Will you see him at the other end waiting for the "GO" signal? Will you be in appropiate garb? Is it guaranteed you will go to the ground? Will not gouge your eyes out, or spit on you, or pull a knife? You see, aside from entertainment value (which I personally see none) there is nothing of value to someone preparing to fight on the street.

 

Now, HOWEVER, if you were preparing for competition in a NHB fight, there is a veritable plethora of knowledge in watching a NHB fight. But that's it.

 

I suppose I am one to be preached to about what is the perfect martial art. Thank you for pointing that out to me. I think your emotion is misdirected here. I have said nothing to debase mixed martial arts.

 

Where did you get the idea that I was saying anything contrary to learning all you can? The latter half of your post, was it directed to me? I, very openly, speak of not limiting yourself to any one thing. So the latter half of your post eludes me. Unless, it wasn't directed to me. Which, if that isn't the case, then there is nothing more to write.

 

p.s.

 

Who is doing any slandering?