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Not only is it part of the showmanship, but those guys can back it up. That definitely separates them from the riff raff.

He who knows others is wise. He who knows himself is enlightened.

- Tao Te Ching


"Move as swift as a wind, stay as silent as forest, attack as fierce as fire, undefeatable defense like a mountain."

- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

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I like to watch the UFC but some parts of it really bother me like how i see a lot of posers wearing tapout shirts like they are just gonna beat the crap out of any person that gives em a wrong look, I just wish there was a little higher respect and more honor to the sport more like MA

I don't think those guys are posers. They spend lots of time training...after all, that's how they make their living. The talk and the intimidation is also a psychological part of the competitions. Yeah, they talk, and they act tough, but its also part of the entertainment aspect of it. Not everyone likes it, but its part of it.

I mean the kids at my school that wear tapout shirts like they know what real fighting not an actual UFC fighter.

The path leading to anger and conflict is wide and easy to travel the path leading to self control and discipline is narrow and difficult

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I like to watch the UFC but some parts of it really bother me like how i see a lot of posers wearing tapout shirts like they are just gonna beat the crap out of any person that gives em a wrong look, I just wish there was a little higher respect and more honor to the sport more like MA

I don't think those guys are posers. They spend lots of time training...after all, that's how they make their living. The talk and the intimidation is also a psychological part of the competitions. Yeah, they talk, and they act tough, but its also part of the entertainment aspect of it. Not everyone likes it, but its part of it.

I mean the kids at my school that wear tapout shirts like they know what real fighting not an actual UFC fighter.

Hey, I wear Kansas City Chiefs t-shirts, but have never been invited to training camp ;)

What I mean by this is that entities like the UFC have taken the world of Martial Arts and marketed it like it never has been before. Now the layman takes an interest in Martial Arts, picks a fighter or stable of fighters that he likes, and can by merchandise that reflect those preferences. Its not unlike me buying KC Chiefs gear, since I am only the biggest ever KC Chiefs fan (ok, maybe an exaggeration there...I'm not THAT big....) but I think you can see my point.

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I like to watch the UFC but some parts of it really bother me like how i see a lot of posers wearing tapout shirts like they are just gonna beat the crap out of any person that gives em a wrong look, I just wish there was a little higher respect and more honor to the sport more like MA

I don't think those guys are posers. They spend lots of time training...after all, that's how they make their living. The talk and the intimidation is also a psychological part of the competitions. Yeah, they talk, and they act tough, but its also part of the entertainment aspect of it. Not everyone likes it, but its part of it.

I mean the kids at my school that wear tapout shirts like they know what real fighting not an actual UFC fighter.

Hey, I wear Kansas City Chiefs t-shirts, but have never been invited to training camp ;)

What I mean by this is that entities like the UFC have taken the world of Martial Arts and marketed it like it never has been before. Now the layman takes an interest in Martial Arts, picks a fighter or stable of fighters that he likes, and can by merchandise that reflect those preferences. Its not unlike me buying KC Chiefs gear, since I am only the biggest ever KC Chiefs fan (ok, maybe an exaggeration there...I'm not THAT big....) but I think you can see my point.

I am not arguing and I see your point I just dont like the guys that wear the tapout shirts like they are all tough but they dont know how to fight because there is someone always bigger and better than you idk humbleness and respect is just a big part of my character so its just weird to see these kids at my school who I know couldnt compete at

the level of a UFC fighter but act like they can

The path leading to anger and conflict is wide and easy to travel the path leading to self control and discipline is narrow and difficult

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It's true that some of them don't know how to fight, and it's also true that a lot of UFC fighters are cocky, but that's part of being a fighter. You have to be absolutely confident in your skills to the point that you think you're bulletproof so to speak. If you don't have that absolute belief in yourself, you'll lose. The first time you take a big shot, you'll curl up into a little ball, and you'll get beaten by TKO. That's why they're so cocky, it's a survival thing. The casual martial artist, or traditional, non-competitive martial artist doesn't really need to worry about that kind of confidence. You should trust your training, but you aren't professionally fighting another highly trained fighter. I'd be willing to bet the top judoka and BJJ guys in the world have a bit of a swagger once they get out on that mat. They know they'll win, they're confident of the fact, and to bruise your psyche, they'll let you know it.

He who knows others is wise. He who knows himself is enlightened.

- Tao Te Ching


"Move as swift as a wind, stay as silent as forest, attack as fierce as fire, undefeatable defense like a mountain."

- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

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It's true that some of them don't know how to fight, and it's also true that a lot of UFC fighters are cocky, but that's part of being a fighter. You have to be absolutely confident in your skills to the point that you think you're bulletproof so to speak. If you don't have that absolute belief in yourself, you'll lose. The first time you take a big shot, you'll curl up into a little ball, and you'll get beaten by TKO. That's why they're so cocky, it's a survival thing. The casual martial artist, or traditional, non-competitive martial artist doesn't really need to worry about that kind of confidence. You should trust your training, but you aren't professionally fighting another highly trained fighter. I'd be willing to bet the top judoka and BJJ guys in the world have a bit of a swagger once they get out on that mat. They know they'll win, they're confident of the fact, and to bruise your psyche, they'll let you know it.
I understand what you mean

The path leading to anger and conflict is wide and easy to travel the path leading to self control and discipline is narrow and difficult

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On the T-Shirt thingy...it's just a T-Shirt!!

:)

**Proof is on the floor!!!

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On the T-Shirt thingy...it's just a T-Shirt!!

:)

Just the attitude that bothers me is my point :brow:

The path leading to anger and conflict is wide and easy to travel the path leading to self control and discipline is narrow and difficult

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Don't forget about Frank Mir and Chuck Liddell, they are both Karate ka as well. To be a success in MMA means to be well rounded, so please note that none of those guys are just one style. Machida is a blackbelt in karate and BJJ. MMA mean mixed martial arts!!!

On the shirts:

They just show that you are a fan of the sport. I have a few MMA and Everlast shirts, does that send the message that I am a born killer? I think it shows that I have an interest in the sport. How many of you own some sort of NFL,NHL,NBA or MLB gear? Does that say any thing other than I like this or that team? I think we are looking to far into the shirt issue.

The past is no more; the future is yet to come. Nothing exist except for the here and now. Our grand business is not to see what lies dimly at a distance, but to do what's clearly is clearly at hand...Lets continue to train!

  • 3 months later...
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As a Karateka and UFC fan.. short answer yes. More Karatekas in UFC would be cool.

I think the glaring difference between a UFC event and a no rules street fight is kicks to the head and spine of a downed opponent. In a real fight when one combatant loses balance, it's over. The standing fighter will instinctively attack with devestating stomps or snap kicks. If it wasn't for this one rule UFC fights would have different outcomes and would be much shorter.

In a UFC event, a good stand up fighter will have no motivation to trip or throw an opponent who may be a better wrestler, bjj, or joint manipulator. Because his only choice is to grapple, he doesn't even try. He may lose this fight because he is taken down and submitted in a later round. That same fighter might have beaten that same opponent in a streetfight by sweeping, tripping, or throwing him early in the fight and thrashing him with kicks.

Unending Love,

Amazing Grace

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