MMA_Jim Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 As people before said, you should do it. It is good to train a martial art for stand fight and another martial art like BJJ to ground fight. This is a smart step. It is going to give you respect from MMA fighters. Some people who train MMA think they are just better because MMA is a "good mix" of martial arts and that they can fight on the ground. Even if BJJ is effective against these who do not practice ground fighting, it is unpractical on the street (who wants to roll in the dirt?) against several attackers. But, as I said before, BJJ is going to give you some respect. You are also going to be safe (in case one ground fighter attacks you). And there are no age limits. Start training but be careful so you do not start training too many things at once. You might be overwhelmed then.These are statements I hear most often from people who have never been in a fight.Theres a saying when it comes to grappling and fighting in real life- "ground happens."It means that despite your best efforts and intentions, you'll often find yourself on the ground during the course of a fight.A fight isnt about what you "want" to do its about what you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsteczko Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Yes, you are right I have never been in a street fight. But...These are statements I hear most often from people who have never been in a fight.Theres a saying when it comes to grappling and fighting in real life- "ground happens."It means that despite your best efforts and intentions, you'll often find yourself on the ground during the course of a fight.A fight isnt about what you "want" to do its about what you can do.I respect that you have been in several fights on the street and you are more experienced in this? What I mean is a street fight when someone is attacking you with a e.g. knife. When the other guy is armed you must use completely different techniques than these you use against a "normal" guy. BJJ does not look like a martial art where you can take a guy with a knife to the ground and do a renaked choke on him while he is stabbing you with his knife. But as I said before I didn't fight on the street so I cannot be 100 % sure. Maybe you know? I also train BJJ so I can protect myself if the fight was on the ground. But I don't think this would be in my plans. Greetings John SteczkoJohn The Burn Belly Fat Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMA_Jim Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Yes, you are right I have never been in a street fight. But...These are statements I hear most often from people who have never been in a fight.Theres a saying when it comes to grappling and fighting in real life- "ground happens."It means that despite your best efforts and intentions, you'll often find yourself on the ground during the course of a fight.A fight isnt about what you "want" to do its about what you can do.I respect that you have been in several fights on the street and you are more experienced in this? . Yes, I've been in many street fights, if I had to put a number on it, you could say a few hundred (maybe 200+)Again as I say maybe times, take that statement with a grain of salt, because for all you know I could be some kid behind a computer just making stuff up.But again the reason I responded to you post was because you made statements rather than giving your opinion- leading the reader to believe that you knew exactly what you were talking about (i.e. you've extensive experience in street fighting)What I mean is a street fight when someone is attacking you with a e.g. knife. When the other guy is armed you must use completely different techniques than these you use against a "normal" guy. BJJ does not look like a martial art where you can take a guy with a knife to the ground and do a renaked choke on him while he is stabbing you with his knife. Doesnt that hold true for virtually all martial arts? Bear in mind that in a self defense situation, the person attempting to protect his or herself is not obligated to engage the other person- you're picture some guy fresh out of a cage fight who's trying to figure out how to take down an assailant who's circling him with a knife...First off, if I see this guy has a knife in his hand, Im probably not going to try to throw a double leg on him- Im not going to try to hit him either (if Im close enough to punch him, hes close enough to stab me).Second, when someone pulls a knife they generally are not going to brandish it and let you know they have one (if they plan on using it anyways).Third, if someone is going to attack you with a knife and you plan on taking it off of them, you're going to have to engage in a grapple of some kind (grabbing= grappling)This is a good video to watch in regard to knife defense and I agree wholeheartedly with the point the video attempts to make- that knife defense is atrocious. I dont want to post the direct link, because its shows a few graphic images, but type in "knife defense is a myth" in youtube and watch the video that comes up.Seriously I teach self defense techniques, but do I teach knife defense? Not really- my knife defense entails falling to your back and kicking like hell at your opponents knees until you get him to back up just enough to stand up and run away (again, assuming you're unable to run away in the first place).I show what I know works- I know it works because i've used it numerous times on fully resisting opponents, many times knowing ahead of time what I was going to do and they were still unable to stop it. When I successfully defend myself against a knife attack, I'll be glad to share the technique. Until then, even the "experts" at knife defense are really only experts in theory and not in practice. Again, some guy with a military background who "claims" he defended himself against 100 armed assailants who ambushed him in vietnam or the persian gulf doesnt cut it for me, because anyone can make that claim and its irrefutable.I also train BJJ so I can protect myself if the fight was on the ground. But I don't think this would be in my plans.And theres nothing wrong with that- but should you want to avoid the ground game its the grappling training that gives you that choice and not your striking training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiuJitsuNation Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I see you are in tennessee. Who is the instructor teaching bjj? what are his credentials. beware of bogus programs https://www.1jiujitsunation.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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