albeaver89 Posted March 5, 2010 Posted March 5, 2010 I now that for a Katana Wakizashi and Tanto you use Kenjutsu, and i also know that the straight bladed swords use a different swing and target different areas, but what does one who uses these weapons study? Kenjutsu? or something completely different?
Toptomcat Posted March 6, 2010 Posted March 6, 2010 The design of the chokuto was imported from China prior to the Heian period: after about 1200 I don't think any were made except for temple swords. If you really wanted to fight with one I suppose a Chinese jian art would be the way to go, or some other non-Japanese sword art: the oldest surviving school of Japanese swordsmanship dates to the 14th century, considerably after curved blades had become the only game in town.As for the ninjato, there's considerable doubt as to whether they even existed in actual Japanese history.
Davisonsensei Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 Ninjato Were Designed for close quarter combat and for easy carry when they were sent to achieve an objective. As they we not a battlefield soldier like the samurai. If you study a sword system, then use your ninjato instead of katana and follow the same curicucim. The best ive found r made by Paul Chen. The key to immorality is first living a life worth remembering
Wastelander Posted December 13, 2010 Posted December 13, 2010 Ninjato did not exist as actual weapons, they were invented by theater (along with the entire ninja uniform) so that the audience could distinguish good guys from bad guys and eventually made more popular by Hollywood. Japanese swordsmiths utilized a heat treating method called 'differential hardening' which will cause a sword to curve along the spine, so creating a straight blade and still using that method would have been very difficult and unnecessary when the wakizashi already exists.ETA: If you want to study fighting with straight-bladed swords you need to look into European fighting arts related to the longsword or rapier. Kishimoto-Di | 2014-Present | Sensei: Ulf KarlssonShorin-Ryu/Shinkoten Karate | 2010-Present: Yondan, Renshi | Sensei: Richard Poage (RIP), Jeff Allred (RIP)Shuri-Ryu | 2006-2010: Sankyu | Sensei: Joey Johnston, Joe Walker (RIP)Judo | 2007-2010: Gokyu | Sensei: Joe Walker (RIP), Ramon Rivera (RIP), Adrian RiveraIllinois Practical Karate | International Neoclassical Karate Kobudo Society
Liver Punch Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Ninjato did not exist as actual weapons, they were invented by theater (along with the entire ninja uniform) so that the audience could distinguish good guys from bad guys and eventually made more popular by Hollywood. Japanese swordsmiths utilized a heat treating method called 'differential hardening' which will cause a sword to curve along the spine, so creating a straight blade and still using that method would have been very difficult and unnecessary when the wakizashi already exists.My understanding is that this is correct. However, I've found very little documentation on any inexpensive swords existing of any type. Does this mean that if one could not afford a katana or wakizashi, they were left to polearm and other types of weapons for battle? "A gun is a tool. Like a butcher knife or a harpoon, or uhh... an alligator."― Homer, The Simpsons
shinka Posted August 18, 2012 Posted August 18, 2012 Ninjato straight sword is kinda of an unknown subject....Some say it's kinda new some don't.... Mostly, ninjas used katana cause they were most of the time (samurai) working as an assassin on the side etc...Some say the original ninjato came from the fact that sometime they needed a quick,wastable weapon so they would forged a cheap piece of metal into a blade.The curve was not easy to make so they made it straight and sharp.I've studied ninjutsu and worked on the subject for many years now. Knowing others is intelligence, knowing yourself is true wisdom. Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.
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