RichardZ Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Again, if we establish that we are no different, then why put one on in the first place?If we are to discuss, that the display of rank doesnt change us, then why bother putting on the display? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 For the same reason that the army uses rank, I guess. To identify someone's level of knowledge at a glance.Honestly, I could care less if I wore a belt or not. But, my school requires it, so I do. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardZ Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Indeed. I had almost the same discussion with a actual-ordain Buddhist monk, a few months back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei8 Posted November 19, 2009 Author Share Posted November 19, 2009 The kids run for cover. Why? Do they freak seeing your strange underwear?Seriously, I cannot fully understand the pupose of this thread.For be it as it may, if one is all these things when they take off their belt, why bother to put one on in the first place?For FUN...cool? And, why not! I sometimes create...real dorky topics and sometimes I don't...cool? **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushido_man96 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I don't consider them dorky. They make us think. Any little thing like this can really get us going, and take us in who-knows how many different directions.And besides, if a conversation never starts, than it can't be had. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardZ Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Dorky? No.If such a discussion is about how little different one is AFTER removing a belt, it stands to reason, the belt is not needed, nor did it seem like it had changed someone.Therefore, I think, if someone is to discuss or state that removing their belt has not changed them, then the belt seems to not be a good course of any sort of accomplishment to be examined.Thus, it stands to reason, those who are not martial artists without rank, share the same dispositions as those who remove theirs. So, therefore, the rank-belt is nullified.If a discussion is on how one may preceive what their belt is, or DOES for them, this is a paramount issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade96 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 .... i wish I could put it back on again and go back to the dojo.Seriously, I love training. Enhancement of the self - that is the life for me.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------RichardZ: "Again, if we establish that we are no different, then why put one on in the first place? If we are to discuss, that the display of rank doesnt change us, then why bother putting on the display? "I think that it does change you. that the pretty colored belts can be a good self - esteem and confidence booster. Because you hold and see and look at something you earned, a result of hard work and dedication. its like you think 'i did this' and since the aim of karate is enhancement of the self.....the colored belt can boost your confidence and your self -esteem....thus changing you.Of course they also mean rank. when i was still in the kenpo school, one of the blue belts told me he throws his belts in the closet and I'm like What? You take what you got for your work and dedication and throw it in the closet? and he's like 'well....don't tell sensei' and I'm like thinking, Yeah. I'm not sure people always know what exactly the belts could mean and represent. Some people regard discipline as a chore. For me it is a kind of order that sets me free to fly.You don't have to blow out someone else's candle in order to let your own flame shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM_MERLIN Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 The "Belt" is by no means a Dorky topic.When you talk to the General Public and the Martial Arts comes up in conversation, what is the first thing they ask you?Are you a Black Belt? We all know that, we have all been asked that, but that's what they understand.In my opinion "The Belt" is a very useful tool in setting Goals for people.A typical new student see's the Belt as the prize and they set a Goal to get it.The Beautiful thing about the Martial Arts is by the time they get it (the Belt) they understand the true prize was the Journey to it. If only the body could do what the Brain thought it could once do.Bringing the styles together at DojoVillage.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei8 Posted November 20, 2009 Author Share Posted November 20, 2009 When I take off my belt.....I put it down....for now...then I put it back on. **Proof is on the floor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardZ Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 The "Belt" is by no means a Dorky topic.When you talk to the General Public and the Martial Arts comes up in conversation, what is the first thing they ask you?Are you a Black Belt? We all know that, we have all been asked that, but that's what they understand.In my opinion "The Belt" is a very useful tool in setting Goals for people.A typical new student see's the Belt as the prize and they set a Goal to get it.The Beautiful thing about the Martial Arts is by the time they get it (the Belt) they understand the true prize was the Journey to it.Nice post. However, is this thread about how others perceive the black belt, or how we, as martial artists, do so when we remove it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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