Radok Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 What is the diff between Shorei Ryu, Shorin ryu, and Shorinji ryu? How about Kempo and Kenpo? Chi gung and Chi kung? Gung fu and Kung fu? If you can't laugh at yourself, there's no point. No point in what, you might ask? there's just no point.Many people seem to take Karate to get a Black Belt, rather than getting a Black Belt to learn Karate.
ronryu Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 Well I caint help with all the questions but on the one about shorei ryu and shorin ryu . Shorei ryu is the old name of naha te (goju ryu ) shorin ryu is of hte shuri part of okinawa while shorei ryu is from the naha part of okinawa the differences are shorin ryu is more up in the stances and snapier in there techinques while shorei (naha) use deeper stances as well as the now famous sanchin type breathing . As far as kempo and kenpo they are pertty much the same just different pronuncation . However there didfferent styles of kempo such as american and okinawan . hope this helps . Karate is not a sport , it is a way of life .Sandan Motobu ha Shi-to ryu karate Katsu ryu kempo Ryukyu kobudo
Chris from CT Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 Kempo & Kenpo - Literally they are the same, but some people perfer one spelling over another when discussing certain styles. Ex. Ed Parkers' American Kenpo Nick Cerio's Kenpo James Mitose's Kosho Ryu Kempo Fred Villari's Shaolin Kempo Karate Kung Fu & Gung Fu - Same thing, just different pronunciations/spellings Chi Kung & Chi Gong / Qi Kung & Qi Gong - Same thing, just different pronunciations/spellings Take care _________________ Chris LaCava "Man is born soft and supple, in death he is hard and rigid..." LaoTzu [ This Message was edited by: Chris from CT on 2002-07-15 12:43 ] Chris LaCavaJung Ki Kwan of Connecticut"Man is born soft and supple,in death he is hard and rigid..." LaoTzu
Chris from CT Posted July 15, 2002 Posted July 15, 2002 Oops, double post. Sorry. Oh wait, here's something else... "Shorinji," I have been told is the Japanese translation for "Shaolin." Take care _________________ Chris LaCava "Man is born soft and supple, in death he is hard and rigid..." LaoTzu [ This Message was edited by: Chris from CT on 2002-07-15 12:43 ] Chris LaCavaJung Ki Kwan of Connecticut"Man is born soft and supple,in death he is hard and rigid..." LaoTzu
Taikudo-ka Posted July 16, 2002 Posted July 16, 2002 The best thing when in doubt about things like this is to look at the original kanji. This gives you a meaning, which is generally the same everywhere, and a range of pronunciations, which differ between Mandarin, Chinese, Okinawan, Japanese On, Japanese Kun, etc. So we can see that, for example, kempo, kenpo, quan fa and chuan fa are all different pronunciations (dialects/accents) of the same word. (Fist System) Shorin, Shorei and Shorinji are all variations on "Shaolin" (a difficult word for the Japanese tongue). I've heard that originally they were not spelled "correctly" on Okinawa but written with whatever kanji happened to closely fit the pronunciation, hence the variations in English spelling as well. Seems like Chinese kung fu was considered very "hip" for a while back in Okinawa, and everyone wanted to call their school "Shaolin Style". All you needed to do was add a few kata from a Chinese kung-fu school to your existing Te, and voila -you now teach "Shaolin Style Quan Fa" - Shorinji Kempo. This gave us kata like Sanshin, Wanshu, Kusanku, Chinto, Gojushiho and Hakkatsu. Ronryu is right about the shorei/shorin connection to naha/shuri te. However, terms like "kempo" are generic and apply to a wide range of styles. Really, any style of karate could be called "kempo" whether its part of the school's "official" name or not. KarateForums.com - Sempai
Radok Posted July 20, 2002 Author Posted July 20, 2002 That clears up a few things. If you can't laugh at yourself, there's no point. No point in what, you might ask? there's just no point.Many people seem to take Karate to get a Black Belt, rather than getting a Black Belt to learn Karate.
shaolinprincess Posted July 21, 2002 Posted July 21, 2002 I like the shorin ryu type from okinawa, it is very practical, like ronryu said it has differnt stances and what not. :pony: It's what you put into it...1st kyu-Okinawa Shorin Ryu Matsumura Seito Federation
Radok Posted July 21, 2002 Author Posted July 21, 2002 that's why it's my sig. If you can't laugh at yourself, there's no point. No point in what, you might ask? there's just no point.Many people seem to take Karate to get a Black Belt, rather than getting a Black Belt to learn Karate.
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